Poor Student's chances for Yale /transfer

<p>I started a thread in another section but it was moved to the Race thread. So I would like to ask Yalies (parents, friends or affiliates of) about my chances to transfer. It is a long shot I know, especially for someone from my humble beginnings (Both my parents are from fishing villages, not towns, but villages. When they graduated the equivalent of HS, their family celebrated, because the generation before them didn’t even know how to read).</p>

<p>so, my previous post:</p>

<p>I am 1/4 Inuit on my mother’s side. Her family immigrated to a pacific island, then I immigrated from there to here.</p>

<p>I want to report my race for college purposes, but I know that Native Americans have to be registered with their tribe, but no one has said anything on the “Alaskan Native” group of peoples.</p>

<p>so do I have to start digging for old documents that prove this?</p>

<p>Also, I am 1/2 mongolian and 1/4 han chinese. That makes me 3/4 asian. If I report both, it makes me URM and ORM… what happens then?</p>

<p>I’m currently living in California, but my family’s income is under the poverty line, which is also contradictory for college purposes. I would love to transfer to Yale for anthropology and sociology, but my background at an inner city school has not given me much chances to shine in high school like some of the other kids. I am also first generation to attend college. I would say my GPA in HS is probably only a 3.5, top 10% and bad SATs which I will retake to improve.
Might I still have a relative chance if I do stellar in college?</p>

<p>I have a 3.93 with an engineering major right now, and am involved in community service and several clubs related to the humanities, but I’ve only been at my current university for 3 semesters and usually only juniors and seniors get the kind of leadership positions (President, VP, student senator of so and so) I see thrown around on the CC forum from graduating HS seniors. I also volunteer during my vacations for habitat for humanity, conservation corps and animal interest groups like wildlife waystation.</p>

<p>I wish I could do more, and be recognized for national awards like a lot of applicants, but buying an $11 SAT guidebook in HS was hard enough, because my family needed the money for food, clothes and other necessities. I can’t really afford to spend hundreds joining a gazillion activities.</p>

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<p>This thread may help you, it’s about the ethnicity verification form that Y sends out to NA/PI candidates:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/yale-university/646505-ethnicity-verification-form.html?highlight=native+american[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/yale-university/646505-ethnicity-verification-form.html?highlight=native+american&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>If not, call Y and ask them about the documentation you’ll need.</p>

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<p>Candidates who are part URM are considered URM.</p>

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<p>Are you planning on taking the upcoming year or a semester off? Y does not permit students with over 2 years of college to apply as a transfer:</p>

<p>[Who</a> is Eligible to Transfer? | Transfer Students | Office of Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.yale.edu/admit/other/transfer/who.html]Who”>http://www.yale.edu/admit/other/transfer/who.html)</p>

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<p>Really? I was told I should report to colleges only my URM ethnicity, because otherwise I wouldn’t receive much (if any) of an admissions boost on account of my being Asian “canceling” my being Hispanic. Is it just Yale that considers ORM/URMs as simply URMs?</p>

<p>From my experience on this board and personally (half URM & half ORM children), candidates who are part URM are categorized as such no matter what other race/ethnicity the are. Diversity is not assessed mathematically, where one factor cancels out another, rather a candidate is evaluated on all of their characteristics, ethnicity/race being just one of them. </p>

<p>Also, even within URMs, factors such as SES, academic opportunities, etc. are taken into consideration.</p>

<p>If you plan to report your racial/ethnic status, I recommend you answer honestly.</p>

<p>Each school will likely have their own individual take on URMs to some degree. For instance, some rural LACs have a difficult time recruiting and retaining URMs and may evaluate them differently than a school like Y which likely has many URMs with varied backgrounds applying. For instance, my D recently got an invitation to apply for a diversity weekend at Swarthmore, their definition of diversity candidates included Asians along with Hispanics, AA and NA students.</p>

<p>to entomom:</p>

<p>yes, I will only be taking 3 semesters at this current school. I am transferring out no matter what, whether to Yale or not. After these 3 semesters I am taking a couple years off to work and support my family. </p>

<p>I called up transfer admissions and I was informed that if I am over 5 years out of HS, I also qualify for the Eli Whitney program for Nontrads. If I apply right now I will not qualify, but two years from now I will… I was also told that the transfer program will only consider grades so if say, I had bad grades and non-impressive ECs because I was disadvantaged, they wouldn’t care. Has anyone here successfully transferred in despite bad HS grades?</p>

<p>I was hoping if I can prove that I’m making the best of college and all it has to offer, I could still have a chance, but I’m not sure now. Should I just take those years off and wait, or take my chances with transfer? </p>

<p>Also, I read the the link you gave, thank you, but it maintains that anyone marking “Alaskan Native” must have “tribal affiliation” but doesn’t have to be registered, so everyone is contradicting each other. So I will take your advice and call up yale. Thank you for your help.</p>