Possession – February CC Book Club Selection

<p>[side note: too late to edit my post above, but of course I meant “Blanche and Christabel” meet at a Ruskin lecture. “Blanche and Glover”…LOL, that’s what I get for posting before coffee.]</p>

<p>Hi buenavista! I’d been wondering about you :). I agree with your assessment of that last chapter, “wistful and poignant.” Since Byatt chose to end the book with that epilogue, she must have wanted to leave us with such a tone. I suppose it reflects a universal human experience – that loss of so many moments of our lives. But Byatt leaves us with hope, too, opening the last chapter with a sentence that suggests that even if what we say or do is unrecorded and forgotten, the impact of our words and actions can nonetheless be profound:</p>

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<p>The floor is now open for nominations for our April selection!</p>

<p>Are you reading something for March?</p>

<p>I don’t know if anyone still has any stomach for the era, but I discovered the book we should have read instead of The Glass Room. It’s Visitations by Erbenbeck. I’m certainly going to try it myself. It is described here as short but full of riches:</p>

<p>[Visitation</a> by Jenny Erpenbeck ? review | Books | The Guardian](<a href=“http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/oct/30/visitation-jenny-erpenbeck-fiction-review]Visitation”>Visitation by Jenny Erpenbeck – review | Fiction | The Guardian)</p>

<p>On the “best books” thead, PlantMom mentioned Crossing to Safety by Stegner. It interests me, but I don’t know if it would be a good choice since PlantMom has already read it.</p>

<p>mathmom, our discussions take place on alternate months: Feb-April-June-Aug-Oct-Dec. Having an “off” month gives people time to read books that wouldn’t be typical club choices (ask ignatius about Fifty Shades of Grey…) or maybe to not read at all (“Downtown Abbey” marathon).</p>

<p>I would love to read it again! I think I said in that post that my dear friend in my small book club IRL absolutely hated what happened; he threw the book away, and was afraid to come to my house to tell me. (I laughed, was glad he had an opinion.) Most people really like it, though. I think it’s a gentle read, mostly.</p>

<p>As usual, here is our list of past selections, as reference for newcomers:</p>

<p>2009:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/722812-cc-june-summer-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/722812-cc-june-summer-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt; (The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society)</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/739173-dreamers-day-july-cc-summer-book-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/739173-dreamers-day-july-cc-summer-book-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/756770-sarah-s-key-august-cc-summer-book-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/756770-sarah-s-key-august-cc-summer-book-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/775489-american-wife-october-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/775489-american-wife-october-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/802971-thirteenth-tale-december-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/802971-thirteenth-tale-december-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>2010:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/839908-help-february-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/839908-help-february-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/874004-shadow-wind-april-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/874004-shadow-wind-april-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/921062-elegance-hedgehog-june-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/921062-elegance-hedgehog-june-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/950434-let-great-world-spin-august-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/950434-let-great-world-spin-august-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/983235-cutting-stone-october-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/983235-cutting-stone-october-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1017662-moonstone-december-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1017662-moonstone-december-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>2011:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1051496-major-pettigrew-s-last-stand-february-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1051496-major-pettigrew-s-last-stand-february-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1088114-water-elephants-april-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1088114-water-elephants-april-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt; </p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1128229-hotel-corner-bitter-sweet-june-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1128229-hotel-corner-bitter-sweet-june-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1164259-secret-garden-forgotten-garden-august-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1164259-secret-garden-forgotten-garden-august-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1196045-state-wonder-october-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1196045-state-wonder-october-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1227061-before-i-go-sleep-december-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1227061-before-i-go-sleep-december-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>2012:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1258379-11-22-63-february-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1258379-11-22-63-february-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1289690-bridge-san-luis-rey-april-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1289690-bridge-san-luis-rey-april-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1324495-cat-s-table-june-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1324495-cat-s-table-june-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt; </p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1354603-wide-sargasso-sea-jane-eyre-august-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1354603-wide-sargasso-sea-jane-eyre-august-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1378606-cloud-atlas-october-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1378606-cloud-atlas-october-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1403248-glass-room-december-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1403248-glass-room-december-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>2013:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1429935-possession-february-cc-book-club-selection.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1429935-possession-february-cc-book-club-selection.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Don’t ask … please … just … don’t. LOL Truthfully, I scarce remember it … though I know I neither loved nor hated it - more along the lines of “what’s all the fuss about?”</p>

<p>mathmom: What sci-fi space operas do you like? (I’m trying to remember one series in particular that I want to read but can’t remember title or author. I’m thinking you might have mentioned it on another thread.)</p>

<p>Lois McMasters Bujold is my favorite. Love, love, love her books. (Generally known as the Vorkosigan Saga - start with Shards of Honor which along with book number two is about the Mom of Miles who is the star of most of the books.) Right now I’m reading the latest two Liaden books from by Sharon Lee and Steven Miller. They are fun too, but not as grounded in reality. </p>

<p>I think every other month is much more doable than every month!</p>

<p>I’m kicking myself for not rereading The Secret Garden which I love and the Forgotten Garden. (I also love *Movie Shoes<a href=“American%20title”>/I</a> or *The Painted Garden<a href=“British%20title”>/I</a> about filming the story, by Noel Streatfeild.)</p>

<p>Re Visitation, I don’t think I can do it –- this description from the review is giving me unpleasant flashbacks:</p>

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<p>Sylvan skates into the room and slides into an open desk, surreptitiously scanning the notes of students nearby…ok, so I got here just in time for the discussion of the next book? What the hey?</p>

<p>Well, whatev…I’ll throw out a few comments anyways :).</p>

<p>Personally, I was surprised that Roland and Maud got together in the end. When Randolph and Cristabel went on their little jaunt, they were basically “in a vacuum” with respect to their lives. Randolph is busy looking at sea life and waterfalls, while Ellen is juxtaposed at home trying to get the dust out of the curtains, deal with wayward maids, sister and the kids are there breaking pieces of the chandelier, etc. That’s the stuff of their real lives. After the trip, Randolph and Cristabel’s secret relationship could not survive in the open (or as a real, not in a vacuum, relationship). </p>

<p>Maud and Roland in a sense relive the R/C trip, living “in a vacuum” off the grid for several weeks. While they aren’t ostensibly lovers, their relationship develops into something they didn’t have back in the real world. Afterwards, Roland feels like he is lurking in Maud’s life and says (page 478): They could not survive in the open. </p>

<p>I didn’t feel like they were well matched at all, and fully expected Roland to cheerfully depart for his new job having accepted that what he and Maud had was a short-lived thing.</p>

<p>As for Ash, I must be cynical from all the politician sex scandals, but when Ash is trying to talk Cristabel into seeing him, talks about how he has a wife, loves her “not as I love you., blah, blah, blah” I just went “yeah, we’ve heard that line before”.</p>

<p>When I first started the book, an early reaction was that it was rather pretentious, but it got better as it progressed. Overall, I enjoyed it even though I didn’t really like any of the characters all that much. Agree that the happy ending seemed a bit contrived, although the whole scene in the cemetery harkened back to the seances in the Victorian part - half expected Ash himself to jump out of the open grave and make some declaration or other. </p>

<p>Loved the subtle irony at the end that Cristabel thought Ash didn’t know about Maia (and was somehow punishing him) while in reality he knew for most of the 30 years.</p>

<p>^On the other hand, Mary13, Visitations might be a Glass Room antidote. Something to clear the palate. Also from the review:</p>

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<p>Sure, the subject matter is sad. Sure, the content might remind us all of that stinky other book. But this author has “uncanny gifts”. She is a <em>woman</em>. She is a German who knows what she’s talking about. To me, this triad of attributes counterbalances the minuses.</p>

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<p>That’s the one I wanted (but could not remember either series title or author). Thanks!</p>

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<p>Love it!</p>

<p>I agree with your comments re the Randolph/Christabel affair and the Roland/Maud affair. Randolph and Christabel act with passion and damn the consequences; Roland and Maud keep their thoughts/feelings closed away. I’m okay with the pairing but I wouldn’t feel anything amiss either if Roland goes his own way.</p>

<p>As for Ash, I had that brief moment of “uh huh, right” with Ash also but decided not to drop my modern day sensibilities into his Victorian passion for Christabel: the letters helped. Glad you finished the book.</p>

<p>Welcome sylvan8798! I’ll waive detention just this once…</p>

<p>You make some excellent points, even if they do mess with my happily-ever-after view of Roland and Maud. The parallel between the two “off the grid” romances is right on target. However, in my mind the difference between the Randolph/Christabel relationship and the Roland/Maud relationship is that the former devastates and the latter heals. </p>

<p>I actually think that Roland and Maud are well-matched, partly because of the fact that they seem so clearly mis-matched. I’ve known happy, long-term couples like that, where my initial thought was “What the…? You must be kidding” (like Fergus’ response to the possibility of Roland and Maud being together). But somehow it works. </p>

<p>So I have hope for Roland and Maud. My concerns are more practical: No cell phones, no e-mail, no Facebook, no Skype—how will they maintain the relationship? I like to think they’ll manage it with letters, and maybe a few poems. :)</p>

<p>^^^ Perfect ending! Definitely a happy-ever-after reader, aren’t you, Mary :)</p>

<p>LOL. I see a happy ever after for Roland and Maud too, but with possibly a long distance relationship for quite a while. I **love **the symmetry of letters following their trip following the footsteps of their Victorian couple. Definitely many letters and some poems!</p>

<p>For a book suggestion - how about Emma Donoghue’s Room? So many have told me I*** have*** to read it.</p>

<p>mathmom, Room is on my list, but NJTheatreMOM has read it – and maybe some others? (Although I have to say that having already read a book does not seem to be a deterrent to club participants–as long as they liked the book, that is.)</p>

<p>So far, we have:</p>

<p>Visitation by Jenny Erpenbeck</p>

<p>Crossing to Safety by Wallace Stegner</p>

<p>Room by Emma Donoghue</p>

<p>I am siding with Mary’s happy ending for Roland and Maud! Repeating, I will not change my mind, I will not change my mind…</p>

<p>I have been looking over your list, and you all have read some good books! I especially loved Major Pettigrew, The Thirteenth Tale, State of Wonder, and Before I Go to Sleep, (this, while I was tending to someone close in the hospital), The Help. </p>

<p>I offer a few suggestions, for future books because they sit here in my to-be-read stack, and not because they are vouch-safe…descriptions from Amazon.com</p>

<p>Swamplandia by Karen Russell-(a gift book from S’s GF) Thirteen-year-old Ava Bigtree has lived her entire life at Swamplandia!, her family’s island home and gator-wrestling theme park in the Florida Everglades. But when illness fells Ava’s mother, the park’s indomitable headliner, the family is plunged into chaos; her father withdraws, her sister falls in love with a spooky character known as the Dredgeman, and her brilliant big brother, Kiwi, defects to a rival park called The World of Darkness. As Ava sets out on a mission through the magical swamps to save them all, we are drawn into a lush and bravely imagined debut that takes us to the shimmering edge of reality.</p>

<p>The Painted Drum by Louise Erdrich (I recently read her Round House, thought it excellent, although brutal. This one’s a gift from my son).</p>

<p>A Passage to India by E.M. Forster (I have read others, but not this, adore his writing)</p>

<p>The Beautiful and Damned by F. Scott Fitzgerald (Haven’t read this one, love his writing too–and reading of life in the decadent 20’s)</p>

<p>The Dirty Life: A Memoir of Farming, Food, and Love by Kristin Kimball (non-fiction, woman meets farmer, leaves New York to live on farm; a Christmas gift from my mom)</p>

<p>The World As We Know It by Joseph Monninger (another gift from my mom, A lifetime of friendship begins the day brothers Ed and Allard save Sarah from drowning in an icy river near their rural New Hampshire home. Though their paths diverge through the years, the connection between the three endures until a heartbreaking tragedy in the remote mountains of Wyoming forces Sarah and Allard to confront the unthinkable. In their grief, they find themselves on separate journeys that test the enduring bonds of their relationship and time’s unremitting power to heal. Poignant and transformative, The World as We Know It is subtle and heartrending—a love story of friendship, nature, and the surprising twists that can alter our destinies forever.)</p>

<p>Point Counter Point by Aldous Huxley (gift from my son, I don’t know if I’ll read this unless with a group…Cover blurb from NYT “A powerful and vitriolic indictment of the intellectual world.”</p>

<p>And Crossing To Safety by Stegner is one of my favorites, ever (given to me some 20 years ago by my MIL).</p>

<p>I’m a new-comer here, so I do not want to intrude. These are just some suggestions based on what’s sitting here, so I won’t seem like a lurker :-(.</p>

<p>^^^ Mary likes suggestions :slight_smile: I too have decided to picture Roland and Maud communicating by letter and poem and having the passion of Randolph/Christabel and the enduring comfortable love of Randolph and Ellen.</p>

<p>I will issue a warning though. I HATED Swamplandia!. It will forever and ever remain in the bottom ranks of least favorite books for me. I actually passed it to a friend thinking maybe it was just me: she liked it less than I did, which I would have thought impossible. </p>

<p>Major spoiler follows but be forewarned it is a spoiler which is why I typed in white (highlight to read, should you want):</p>

<p>The book is just weird and depressing. The 12-year-old goes off with this creepy old man, gets raped, and nobody checks this out. The lives of everyone else pretty much sucks also.</p>

<p>I should probably not post my comments because I will most likely not join you guys in April. Still - Swamplandia! - consider my warning a gift. And yes, I know someone somewhere (more than one someone) likes the book … so feel free to totally ignore me. (Walks off with a shudder - Swamplandia!)</p>

<p><strong><em>waiting to be herded along…looking forward to next book selection</em></strong></p>

<p>(I am presently reading “14” by Peter Clines which I am enjoying, but it’s a little woo-woo out there and may not appeal to everyone.)
<a href=“http://www.amazon.com/14-ebook/dp/B00898J9IE/ref=sr_1_1_title_1_kin?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1360859140&sr=1-1&keywords=14[/url]”>http://www.amazon.com/14-ebook/dp/B00898J9IE/ref=sr_1_1_title_1_kin?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1360859140&sr=1-1&keywords=14&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;