Prediabetes in a fit person, what to do?

This is our standard breakfast, every other day. We do only eat plain yogurt, but usually add fruit to flavor it. Today I lined up all of the cereal boxes from highest to lowest sugar content. Not surprisingly, Corn Pops (husband’s favorite) was the worst- by far. Cheerios was surprisingly low in free sugars, the lowest of the 5 brands I checked. Also good was a German imported muesli available at Aldi, mostly whole rolled oats and nuts. I can tell my husband is getting a bit depressed already with this time bomb diagnosis. Physically he feels great, which is probably why prediabetes goes undiagnosed in so many people.

Cookbook suggestions would be appreciated! I’d like to focus on what we can eat instead of focusing on all the things that are now off limits. I have sent a message to the doctor asking about the test for LADA, latent autoimmune diabetes. It’s frustrating that he didn’t mention this or give any consideration at all to the fact that my husband cannot hope to manage this through weight loss or exercise. A good friend was diagnosed with LADA several years ago, after being initially misdiagnosed with type 2 diabetes. None of the medications were working for her and she became very ill before they correctly diagnosed her.

Corn Pops was Sugar Corn Pops or Sugar Pops for many years, until highlighting the sugar in the name became a negative when the health risks of excess sugar intake became better known. Perhaps he is not eating as well as thought.

Shifting to cereals with whole grain and no added sugar like plain oatmeal or no sugar muesli (which is basically raw oatmeal) would be an improvement over (Sugar) Corn Pops. Of course, other changes to shift carbohydrate consumption toward higher fiber and lower sugar are also indicated.

But if that is not enough, then he would need to lower carbohydrate consumption beyond that.

I still call them Sugar Pops. I used to think of them, as well as his daily can of Coke, as a harmless indulgence. I just looked up the sugar in a can of Coke and it exceeds the daily amount recommended for someone who is prediabetic. An easy start to the new dietary plan is going to be eliminating the high sugar staples, no more Coke or Pops. Even lemon Sanpellegrino soda has almost 30 g sugar per can, and I just assumed it was lower in sugar because it’s so sour.

Basically, any sweet drink should be viewed with suspicion. It is very easy to take in a lot of sugar (and calories) very quickly when drinking sweet drinks. If drunk alone, then the sugar spike will be unmoderated by other food being digested.

Yes, there are specific situations where intake of easily digested carbohydrates is desirable. But those tend to be special situations (e.g. during really long hard exercise sessions, like running marathons and equivalent in other sports), not ordinary daily life situations.

their is a blog I follow by a doctor who advocates a low-carb diet and he recently had a post about a company that works with people to reverse type 2 diabetes thru diet. See http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/type-2-diabetes-reversible-scale

Oh yes good point. I eat 5 small meals a day. When I cut back on carbs I found that alittle protein in the mornings makes my body happy so my first food is a protein shake I make with whatever I feel like and a scoop of protein powder. If I am going to eat a family dinner then I just eat more calories that day and go back to 1500 the next. I worked for 3 months with s nutritionist to tweak what I was already doing. And I did lose a pound a month for a couple months by some small adjustments like a nut trail mix instead of a banana. For me it looks like this: shake in am, Greek yogurt late morning, salad early afternoon, trail mix late afternoon and protein and veggie for dinner.

'Scuse me. Get a nutritionist, don’t play with misunderstandings about carbs, sugar and more. And you need to know what’s the right balance of types of foods.

Diabetes can be very individual.

It sounds like his diet has room for improvement. My H had a high A1C and wanted to try diet modification before any meds. Like your H, he was thin and fit, but he was a big fruit juice drinker. After eliminating juices and cutting back on his simple carb portions, he was able to bring his A1C right back in normal range.

A friend recently brought her numbers back in range by cutting out desserts, losing ten lbs. But another did it by having a good-carb snack before bed. But there is no one true way that works for all. On the genetics side, there can be lots of wild cards.

Is your husband Indian by any chance? My wife sees a whole bunch of diabetes and pre-diabetes in that population of her patients, just do not have the same genetics as the typical German/American sugar machine.

You really need to line up all those cereals then toss them in the dumpster. It is not worth keeping simple carbs in the house. Same goes for the Coke. Pastas, rice, breads, potatoes, beer, all gone. We only have steel cut oats in our cupboards and flour for our once/month treats.

It is better to go cold turkey with the simple carbs rather than keeping them around and trying to measure and limit portions. There will be a 3-6 week withdrawal period while the body is rebellious. After that, he’ll feel better than ever.

We don’t follow this exactly, but here’s the framework that started it for us: http://drgundry.com/

Note that a small cup of fruit juice can contain all of the sugars in several pieces of fruit, but without the fiber. So drinking fruit juice means consuming more sugar more quickly, without the buffering effect of fiber, compared to eating the fruit.

^Exactly. H thought fruit juice=fruit=healthy…wrong!

There is a lot of conflicting information out there, one thing that research is showing is that diabetes is not caused by ingestion of sugar or by eating too many carbs per se, but by body fat (and yep, many of the studies mention the fat around organs as being one of the causes of type II diabetes). Sugar and simple carbs cause a huge glycemic reaction which in turn leads to your body producing fat rapidly, but it is the fat itself that messes around with the insulin reaction. Eating a high fat diet also contributes to this, the reason that body weight is an indicator for type II diabetes is pretty simple, if you are heavy, odds are your body fat is high, so exercise and losing weight will cause you to lose body fat, which will improve the insulin mechanism. I would be very careful about the demonization of carbs you hear out there, I have heard people advocating diets like atkins for people with type II diabetes or pre diabetes and that is ridiculous. Complex carbs found in green vegetables and the like are very different than simple carbs (white flour, rice, sugar) and they are different than whole grains (whole grains are better than things like white flour and rice, but still have problems if you eat too much of them). The problem with low carb diets is that they often cut out all carbs and emphasize eating protein, and often it is protein that is heavy in fat, or things like nuts and the like and eating a lot of them isn’t good, they are calorie dense (take a look at the calorie levels on many nuts), and they lead to producing body fat, which is from what I have been reading, the big contributor to pre diabetes and diabetes II. From what I can tell, a diet that is based around eating mostly vegetables, with lesser amounts of whole grains, and lean protein (keyword, lean), and healthy oils sparingly, nuts, nut oils and so forth.

In terms of exercise, if he is running he may want to include strength training as well, mix that with the running, it may help.

One of the biggest things is to work with a nutritionist and see what works, everyone is different, and someone might work better with more protein and less things like whole grains, someone else might work better with less protein. On the American Diabetes website they basically say the best diet is what most people should be eating, it pretty much is what I said up above, carbs are not the evil thing, people see low carb and they think atkins (I am not talking here about people with full blown diabetes), or that if you eat something like pasta or bread you are going to get diabetes, that simply isn’t true, but if you eat a lot of pasta and bread and aren’t eating vegetables and some protein, you aren’t going to be healthy, but that would be true in any event;). Nutritionists generally have ideas what to try and ways to find what works best. The other thing is to remember that food is not fuel, and that if you try some ridiculous diet that totally cuts out things you like, like bread or pasta, because of the idea ‘all carbs are evil’, it will be really hard to maintain it. Better to moderate intake and enjoy it once in a while as a treat, then treat something like carbs (or any other food) like a Puritan treats sex, the enemy, it isn’t:).

The other thing is by all means get retested, those tests can fluctuate, and he could get another reading and see the numbers back to normal…

Actually he is German, has been in the US for about 25 years now. The daily beer is one thing I will not be able to pry from his hands, I think he would rather go to an early grave. I found a list of countries ranked by incidence of diabetes and was surprised that rates are so high in Middle Eastern countries: https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/SH.STA.DIAB.ZS/rankings The ranking didn’t distinguish type 1 and type 2 diabetes.

Just got a reply from my husband’s doctor who claims that LADA (adult onset type-1 diabetes) and type 2 are the same thing. He says there is no test to administer and that treatment would be the same. Perhaps he is right that early intervention (before diabetes onset) is the same, but if it progresses to diabetes the treatment is different. I think I need to start looking for a new doctor.

Not too surprising since those same countries (Kuwait, Qatar, KSA, UAE, Egypt, Bahrain) also have high obesity rates:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2228rank.html

Seems like asking other physicians may be a good idea.

http://www.diabetesforecast.org/2010/may/the-other-diabetes-lada-or-type-1-5.html
http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/54/suppl_2/S68
http://www.pharmacytimes.com/publications/issue/2009/october2009/featurefocuslada-1009

Not directly by body fat–but fat hoards various hormones that impact how your body regulates.

It’s old school that says you must cut out sugar and sweets. Spend some time with various research info and it’s driven home that you need professional support for managing diabetes. No guessing or “I heard” or “Bill’s grandpa couldn’t eat x and y, so I can’t.”

Good luck.

I have seen many people suggest talking to a nutritionist. Just would like to clarify that I believe they mean a Registered Dietitian. In some states virtually anyone can call themselves a “nutritionist” without the education that an RD has.

My doctor and the nutritionist at cardiac rehab both said do not drink your fruit! Better to eat a piece of fruit and get the fiber and far less carbs/sugar.

I do not mean any offense to anyone here, but I am so surprised at the number of people who drink a lot of fruit juice and who also think it is healthy. I have always thought of fruit juice as being almost identical to soda. I only let my kids drink it very watered down when they were younger.

I have the same experience as the OP’s husband. Slim, run almost every day, A1C was mid to high 5s, and when it hit 6.0 my doc declared me “pre-diabetic”. Next reading dropped to 5.8 and he was happy, but most recent was, I think 6.1. Our “healthy diet” was, no added sugar, little red meat, lots of turkey, chicken and fish, no added salt, cut way back on fruit juice, (drink mostly water, wine and beer) and we even stopped eating dessert… BUT (big BUT), we eat lots of bread and pasta. Sooooo… for about 3 weeks now I have been eating vegan. I am not crazy, if I order a veggie quesadilla and it has cheese and sour cream I eat it. And I had fresh wild caught salmon with my wife tonight, but most days recently have been no meat/fish or dairy. Carbs could still be an issue. I am not loading up on bread, but eating lots of fruits and veggies. My goal was not to lose weight, but I have lost almost 10 lbs in the past 3 weeks. I may buy a home blood test kit to check my A1C in 3 months, because I don’t go back to my doc for another 5 months. Because I take a statin , I go in for blood workups every 6 months. That is fairly standard for people who take statins, mainly to monitor the liver function.