Preparing for med school

He is an international student.

Lol Van Wilder…such a trash movie. I am most likley to be a perm. resident before graduating. Will that make any difference?

Being a permanent resident makes huge difference in the possibility of matriculating into med school.

Of the 130 or so US med schools, only 44 will consider international applicants. Of those 44, only maybe a dozen accept internationals routinely.

As an international you are not eligible for federal financial aid to attend med school–which is how most US students finance their medical educations. There is very, very little merit aid available for med school and merit will never even come close to covering your COA. In fact, you must prove you are able to cover the entire cost of you medical education by placing a minimum of 1 year COA into an escrow account before you can matriculate. (Many schools require all 4 years deposited in advance-- so approx. $200-$350K.)

When will you become a permanent resident? It may make a difference if you are not by the time you start applying at the end of 3rd year which might actually force you to wait an extra year.

Prob. around 3rd year I think. However who knows what will happen…I m just praying that everything goes as I want it to

@mom2collegekids‌
Your son graduated in 4 years and got in med school, right?How did he manage to keep his grade in track as a Che while graduating in 4 years?

@MidwestDad3‌ I’m a 5th year MD/PhD student so my med school class was the class of 2014.

And van wilder was a great movie!

@iwannabe_brown Well, that is quite a long haul! What is your sub-specialty going to be?

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Yes, he graduated in 4 years and maintained his grades. He did stay on top of things. He did come in with AP credits which especially for humanities and English helped his schedule.

After this semester, I need only 6 HI/SB credits and 3 english credit, and those are all I need to fullfill my boring core requirement.(thanks to Ap music theory, us gov and Spanish)
Plus , the eng class I am taking is a joke; regular English class designed for non native speaker, which is…nothing more than a class to review basic grammar and stuff

Are you in the Freshman eng’g program basic class? If so, that isn’t hard at all…it’s just an overview of the various different E-disciplines. Isn’t it only 1 credit or 2 credits?? Once you’re in real eng’g courses, it will get harder, much harder, I promise. lol

What all are you taking this semester? I know that you’re taking English for the non-native speaker, which is…well…designed for someone who is coming directly from another country. You, on the other hand, went to high school in the US, so it’s not really designed for you. But, hey, don’t complain…the ones for native speakers are labor-intensive, lots of writing, and the profs are sticklers.

You mentioned having half of your premed prereqs fulfilled already…do you mean from AP credits? If so then you really don’ t have them fulfilled…you still would have to take the next higher level courses. What will you be taking for Bio credits.?

Oh, I meant english class when I said eng class, sorry.
So to answer your other question,
I am taking Che 125, which is and should be easy,
Calc 3 honors
Ochem 1
UA 155 for ESP.
EN 120, non native speaker Eng class.
Haha I wasnt really complaining about english class, in fact I am glad that I can exploit my “non native speaker” label. I really dont like English classes in general so this is a good option for me.

and for next semester, I am strongly considering
UA 156
Ochem 232 and 237
En 121
MA 238
Hy 115
Ch 254
Are these too much?
For bio, I am considering genetics and embryology.
Also, UAB says people with AP credits/clep credits in chem are expected to finish chemisyry course sequence including biochem. Does that mean I have to take upper division chem classes like chem majors would?

What number is biochem

@paul2752

Make sure that ENG 120 fulfills UA’s writing requirement. If it doesn’t, then you’ll still need 2 semesters of writing classes both as part of your GEs and for med school admission.

@mom2collegekids‌ ch 461 I think.

@WayOutWestMom Degreeworks (course list)indicates that I can take either EN 101 or EN 120 for English. So I should be fine.

I believe that some/many med schools are now expecting BioChem…so if so, you have to take it.

@mom2collegekids‌
Yes, UAB med school says it STRONGLY recommends BioChem.

Also I plan to take Developmental biology(another name for Embryology, according to Dr. O’Donnell, head of Bio dept) in the future…

I agree, take BioChem.

Keep in mind though that anything you take in UG while may help you with the MCAT, will not be a significant help in Med. School. So, aside from general background in Chem, Orgo, Physics, Bio, the rest of your sequences are more or less for the MCAT and fullfill requirements at most of the Med. School (and BioChem seem to be getting more popular on this list and some started requiring Anatomy).
Also there are other aspects of UG education that you may want to pursue. My advice is based strictly on D’s experience. Some degree of fluency in Spanish will open doors for more opportunities and for greater improvement in Medical Spanish specifically. As a non-native speaker, D. took one semester of Spanish in UG, but it was a 3rd year. Tthe teacher was great, it was challenging, but result ws also great. She was able to place into intermediate level of Medical Spanish while at Med. School and had significant opportunities that were not open to everybody. Spahish along with other foreign language are on her application to residency. But if Foreign languages are not your strong side, do not worry about this one.
Another aspect is, unless you are already a very strong writer, take a chance at every opportunity to polish your writing skills. Ability to write well and very fast has been very helpful. Also, general communication skills, presentations…etc. Again, take a chance at every opportunity that come your way in this area during UG.
I would say that while you absolutely must get certain level of background in science, Stats (more so than other type of math), many neglect the other very important part of UG experiences, as the last 2 that I pointed out and also your personal growth and developing great social skills dealing with wide variety of people.

Going back to an earlier comment - Enough students of my daughter’s med school class did the fifth year that it was notable, whether it be to get an MPH or to do research. D already had an MPhil in a public health area but took the year for research. It is more common at medical schools where a higher number of students are interested in going into academic medicine.

@Elleneast‌ how did your daughter find research oppportunity after graduating school?