Preparing to Apply - Information for H.S. Juniors and Seniors

<p>In general, it does not matter for regular admission (as opposed to Early Decision) since most schools want to see the entire applicant pool before making a decision. Accordingly, you should sequence and schedule auditions based on anticipated level of preparation over the course of the audition season, the desire to get experience and prioritization of schools. There is a caveat however; some schools have rolling admission and for those there may be an advantage in auditioning early since the number of open spots is maximized (either on an acceptance or yield basis) and if you are accepted, you will know shortly after your audition which can take a lot of pressure off the remaining auditions.</p>

<p>In addition to MichaelNKat’s great advice often the best talent $ is given out earlier rather than later.</p>

<p>One of the schools with rolling admission is Point Park; they also give out the best financial aid early in the admissions process.</p>

<p>UArts has a ā€œmodifiedā€ rolling admissions. If they clearly want you or reject you, you will know 2 weeks after you audition provided your application is complete. If they are undecided about you, you will find out later. If accepted, the acceptance packet also informs you of whether you have been awarded a merit/talent scholarship.</p>

<p>Would there be a current list of rolling admissions MT schools on CC? If the wheel has already been invented…thanks!</p>

<p>2dogs1cat ~~</p>

<p>It’s never too late! I’m 44 and I’m giving it a try after a 20-year ā€œsensibleā€ career in business. Passion never dies. Sometimes I think I’m absolutely insane – other times I’m certain.</p>

<p>If anyone knows of any other ā€œold ladiesā€ who are at school with your S or D, I’d love to hear about it. Surely I’m not the only one.</p>

<p>sssamantha</p>

<p>Good for you! Once my kids hit college, I started auditioning and performing in community theater. As a teacher who has gone to classes ad nauseum, I couldn’t face any more if you paid me! So I feed my passion that way! Let us know how it goes for you! </p>

<p>Have you looked into the certificate programs in NYC? There are many!</p>

<p>snoggie</p>

<p>Thanks for the encouragement! Not familiar with the certificate programs in NYC. Would you mind sharing your insights? Is Circle in the Square one of these?</p>

<p>It’s after 1:00 a.m. and I can’t begin to tell you how much I have learned in the past 2 1/2 hrs. reading everyone’s suggestions, comments, and ideas. However, I’m trying to also breathe as I truly see the path before not only my MT child, but also for me. It’s important for my child to see what’s ahead but I feel as a mom of a MT kid that I have a huge responsibility to do as much as I can to eliminate some of the stress. Am I correct in that the most important job for my MT child is to prepare for the auditions? My child hasn’t come to the reality of knowing the true sense of looking ahead. Can we say, "oh yes, that would be a normal seventeen-year-old! By the way, I’m breathing, but I think it’s called hyperventilating.</p>

<p>ndastgmom…welcome to CC! Keep reading!!! </p>

<p>Preparing for auditions is indeed crucial, but it would not be the only thing to focus on. Exploring colleges to find the right fits, building an appropriate and balanced college list, doing very well in school and challenging oneself there, prepping for standardized tests, training in acting/singing/dance, participating in productions, exploring MT opportunities over the summer for immersion, all are things to also do. Audition prep surely is very important though.</p>

<p>My D is a HS junior planning to major in MT. Although she’s been involved in MT for many years, pursuing this as a college major and career is a bit new to us. We support her 100%. I have been reading posts on this subject for awhile now and while EXTEMELY helpful, I have to admit this is all a bit overwhelming!!! Our biggest challenge right now is trying to put together the well-rounded list of schools to which she should apply/audition. We are fairly flexible as to geographic area. $$ will definitely be an issue, but since she is stong academically (unweighted GPA 3.9, weighted 4.3+, IB/Honors student; top 5% of grad class of 600+, etc.), we are hoping she will be able to garner a good bit of scholarship money. (We also in the process of applying for as many merit based scholie awards as possible).</p>

<p>Since the conventional wisdom here seems to indicate that we should already be visiting schools, I feel very behind at this point! What is your best advice re: coming up with the list so we have time to research/visit by summer? Is this realistic at this point? Could someone help get us started with a list of schools covering the BFA,BA, audition vs, nonaudition areas to which we can add/delete based on our research if somehow I could offer any additional info that would help you with a profile of my D?</p>

<p>We are planning to meet soon with the Dir of her local theatre company, as well as her vocal coach to get some input, but I would like to also tap into the VAST knowledge and experience on this site also. I would appreciate any input. Thanks!!</p>

<p>My advice is to start with a real understanding of what you can/will afford to spend towards college and a realistic understanding of where you stand in terms of financial aid.</p>

<p>Use the calculator available on College Board to get an estimate of what your EFC is. That will determine whether you may receive financial aid from the schools or if you will just qualify for true merit aid (no financial need at all because your EFC is above the cost of the college.)</p>

<p>If you only qualify for merit aid and it is important for you to get some in order for D to attend, then start your list with that in mind.</p>

<p>One thing to explore is whether the schools give out any merit aid at all and whether it is talent based or academically based (or both.)</p>

<p>For example D rec’d almost $20K from Muhlenberg College which was based on a combination of academic/ leadership and talent merit aid.</p>

<p>She attends NYU and is receiving talent based merit aid, but despite high academics cannot get academic merit aid because it is only available for those with financial need.</p>

<p>So research this carefully and it will be a good starting point for weeding out programs and seeing which ones are financialy possible at least.</p>

<p>Once that is determined, you should also see which schools will weigh grades vs talent/ auditions. And also what kind of environment she is looking for academically.</p>

<p>Where does she want to be? Does she need a big city?</p>

<p>You also need to balance the list between schools which are audition based and those that are not. And, of course, certain schools are more selective and others less so, so balance that as well.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>At the top of the MT page, there is a ā€œpeggedā€ thread titled ā€œBig Listā€ which contains a pretty comprehensive list of MT schools with an indication of which are audition based, which are very selective, which are non-audition and which are BFA or BA programs. It’s a good place to start. You can then start narrowing schools down utilizing geographic preferences, if any. If you haven’t done so, take the time to go back through this thread from the beginning; there’s a lot of discussion in the first 5-10 pages about how to put together a diverse appropriately structured list of schools. Once you have done that, you will no doubt have some more focused and specific questions that will be easier to answer and probably more informative for you than a very broad question about which schools should be on your rough draft list.</p>

<p>I am glad we made visits because D really had no idea what she wannted from a college, but we are now down to her final 3, and the none of places she liked most after visits junior year are on the short list. For me D we started with schools that were a good academic match, one reach, a couple of obvious academic yeses. D was going to need all the scholarship/aid she could get because we are in the sort of dead-zone. So this eliminated a tier of schools, (Tisch, UMichigan, …). The visits helped D see the difference between a big ten school, a 12000 student public, 3000 student private schools because her only familiarity before that was very big publics.</p>

<p>In the end it was the ā€œfeelā€ of the audition, the people she met then that made the most difference. The school we forced her to apply to, now looks to be her number 1 choice. Just our story.</p>

<p>Bumping this to the top for the 2010 - 2011 application/audition season!</p>

<p>Apropos of the bump, I wonder if there is a way to change the name of this thread to something like ā€œPreparing to Apply - Information for H.S. Juniors and Seniorsā€. The reference to classes of 2009 and 2010 relates only to when this thread was created when those classes were the rising juniors and seniors. The discussion on this thread really covers the timeline from searching for schools during the junior year to choosing a school in the spring of the senior year and the steps in between.</p>

<p>Michael, great suggestion as this thread pertains to any class and so we want those in the new admissions cycle to also visit this informative discussion. I will change the title as suggested.</p>

<p>By the way, this thread is already a Featured Thread in the MT Forum (see top).</p>

<p>I just want to say, first of all, thank you for these forums. I have learned so much from reading them these past months - there is no way we could do this on our own as this is all foreign territory! </p>

<p>My D is a rising junior and we are starting this whole hectic/exciting process. We learned through CC about the Unified Auditions and I have a couple questions about them.</p>

<p>First, are there colleges that are <em>not</em> on the list that just show up and will audition kids ā€œon the flyā€ or at least be there to answer questions?</p>

<p>Since my D is a junior, and say, for example, she auditioned for Otterbein, is that her one shot with them even though she is just a junior? In other words, she will not be able to audition for them next year as a senior if she is not accepted after the UAs? </p>

<p>I was thinking that the UAs would be a good experience and good practice for what she might face her senior year at the various schools to which she will apply, but we don’t want to use up a chance if she really wants that college on her list (like Otterbein). </p>

<p>Finally, I noticed on the UA website that a lot of the schools don’t mention MT in their subheading so I called to see if the MT department will be attending, and in some cases they are not. My D definitely wants to go the MT route, but won’t some of the same staff be auditors even though they post that they are there just for theatre? Should she plan to audition for a school that has a MT program even though that department is not scheduled to attend? (Like Univ. of Mich.)</p>

<p>And, some of you all may already know this, but all of the schools on the list are not necessarily attending all four locations. Just thought I’d pass that tidbit on just in case.</p>

<p>Thank you.</p>

<p>As far as I know, you cannot audition for schools at Unifieds until you are a graduating senior. In fact, most of them require that you have already submitted your application for admission before even signing up for an audition. </p>

<p>Auditions for summer programs are, of course, different - but are not at Unifieds.</p>

<p>You cannot audition at Unified auditions unless it is your application year to college (typically seniors apply to college). You only get to audition for the school ONE time and it will be in your D’s senior year that she does this. No need to attend as a junior. She won’t be able to audition then (unless she is graduating after her junior year as my D did). </p>

<p>No, schools who are not part of the consortium that participate in Unifieds will not be in attendance. Many colleges and BFA programs do not participate at Unifieds and you have to audition on campus or else these schools hold auditions in certain cities (often the same cities as Unifieds) but separately/independently. You have to visit each school’s OWN site to find out where and when they hold auditions. You can only audition the year you are applying to college, however. </p>

<p>Each college works differently when it comes to the MT and Acting programs and their respective admissions process. You mention U of Michigan. Their Acting and MT program audition entirely separately. If you want to audition for MT, you cannot attend one of the Acting auditions. Different people, different process. At some other schools, you can audition for MT and be considered for either MT or Acting such as with CMU, Syracuse, Tisch, Ithaca, to name a few. Some schools will only consider you for ONE Program, such as Emerson. So, you have to find out if those attending Unifieds are holding their MT or Acting auditions there or both.</p>