<p>mini - perhaps he can’t apologize because he’s a basically honest man, and he still believes in the CAP agenda.</p>
<p>Many people think affirmative action stinks. Doesn’t make them racists. Many people think that single-sex colleges are great. If you don’t believe me, try to “integrate” Bryn Mawr College. Senator Cornyn is addressing the goofball Dujack who wrote Mini’s piece, as I write this…not that it wasn’t already addressed by the Kennedy faction when they withdrew him as a witness becuause he was just so dubious. I suspect they felt his testimony wouldn’t have held up well against all the Democrats–governors, judges, clerks, etc.–who have or are about to testify on Alito’s behalf. You guys are living in an echo chamber…get over Kos and the NYT, and read some real information. I’m sorry…we’re going to roll back the clock on women and minorities, and that’s all there is to it.</p>
<p>“Many people think affirmative action stinks. Doesn’t make them racists.”</p>
<p>If that’s what he wants to say about his CAP membership, it wouldn’t be so hard for him to say it, would it? Or, on the contrary, that he now repudiates his membership, that wouldn’t be so difficult either. Or that he still fully embraces CAP’s defunct agenda, he could do that, too. None of these are particularly difficult. But that he doesn’t know? That he doesn’t remember? Now that strains credulity - and I support his nomination.</p>
<p>What about Clinton?</p>
<p>It appears to me after reading the articles that most of the flap was about admitting women and to a smaller extent, AA. Both certainly arguable policies. The fact that some members sometimes went further in their views is not really important.</p>
<p>Back to the initial question on this thread - if I had gone to Princeton I would want to forget as much as possible about it too. Princeton was probably the worst of all of the Ivy Leagues when it came to discrimination. For years they had a quota for Jews - not a quota to take more Jews in, but a ceiling. I’d be surprised if they don’t have a ceiling on the number of Asian-Americans they’ll take. Alito was lucky to get in as an Italian-American. And what could be worse than the whole “eating club” setup? What a bunch of twits!</p>
<p>As for women, I was in the first class to graduate women from Dartmouth. The year before I arrived there was a vote by the student body - all of whom had selected Dartmouth knowing it was all-male. The administration claimed that the students voted to go co-ed but upon arrival at Dartmouth I never met a single upperclassman who voted for coeducation. </p>
<p>Does Hillary Clinton support Wellesley going coed?? If not, shouldn’t we brand her a sexist?? </p>
<p>Al Sharpton spoke at the Democrat Convention. He’s a racist. People have died because of his racism, people’s careers have been ruined. Why don’t we go after all the Dems for consorting with a racist?</p>
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Or he could just say that he was turned off by the privileged students behaving badly on campus, as he did in his opening statement. Or that he was motivated to support CAP after his graduation due to his ROTC experience…oops, he did that. But no…he must CONFESS to something he doesn’t agree with…fetch the soft cushions and the COMFY CHAIR. NO ONE expects the Kennedy Inquisition. This is lame, and I’m surprised to see support for it even here. Yet another Monty Python “Argument Clinic” on CC.</p>
<p>Sharpton isn’t being nominated for a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court. </p>
<p>It’s not illegal to be racist. But do we want a Justice who wants to “roll back the clock on women and minorities.?” I’m not saying that Alito does - that’s what all the questioning is about. I think it’s fair for us to ask the question, however, as he will be making rulings about this very subject that apply to our us and our children for his considerable lifetime.</p>
<p>Its not jsut the beliefs of the group- it is his response- Um, I remember being a girl scout when I was 7, I remember my first job interview, I remember the clubs I belonged to. I remember stuff.</p>
<p>His memory is selective. And it shifts</p>
<p>With Vanguard, he has had about 6 different excuses. i wouldn’t accept that from my D, why should I accept it from a Supreme Court Nominee</p>
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But it G-D-well better be a legitimate question before raising such a vicious charge. I haven’t seen any sign of that yet. To say: “I’m not saying he’s a racist, but he might be…and I have very tenuous ‘evidence’ to that effect” doesn’t qualify. Which is why these hearings would be a joke if it weren’t for the absolutely apalling slander.</p>
<p>My “rolling back the clock” line was obvious sarcasm, or so I had hoped.</p>
<p>A college being single sex does not roll back the clock on anything. It’s a legit choice.</p>
<p>Driver - I haven’t enough evidence to say that Alito is planning to roll the clock back on women and minorities - but I do have enough personal memories of the racist tone taken by CAP and their desire to exclude everyone but the white elite. Just how involved Alito was, and how committed he was to this agenda is what I don’t know. We know he was a member. We can only assume he knew what they stood for at the time. It was common knowledge for anyone in the community.
And barrons - we’re not talking about just single sex with this group.
We’re talking rich, while, elite male only.<br>
I know you were being sarcastic, driver. But I wasn’t.</p>
<p>Provide a shred of evidence, ASAP. Just something more than your own hanger-on memories from 30 years ago. If CAP=Klan, as you imply repeatedly, there must be SOMETHING to present. Ted Kennedy is awaiting your call.</p>
<p>And driver - being against affirmative action in itself does not make one racist. I agree with you here.
I do think if Alito is against affirmative action, he should say so, however. This would be of importance regarding the direction of the country. That’s what this is about - not trying to put a racist lable on thte guy.</p>
<p>Plenty of shreds about the organization on the web, free to all.</p>
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Ted Kennedy must have missed the useful ones…he had to “subpoena” the LoC for documents that the NYT had already perused.<br>
The problem with addressing current issues such as AA was addressed by a previous nominee, and is now known as the Ginsburg standard–unfortunately, not a reciprocal standard, apparently.</p>
<p>…and that’s 20 years, not 30, driver. Ok - 25. No - I can’t remember. Really can’t recall, exactly. Sorry.</p>
<p>Wheres Anita Hill in this desperate hour?</p>
<p>SeaSong -
You’re a new poster - only showing up for this thread in its dying hour. Do you really exist? You’ve posted 3 times, but your nametag still shows 0 posts. Neat trick.</p>
<p>ASAP:
“Cafe” postings don’t count toward your total. CC policy. You can look it up.</p>
<p>That explains it. I see I my count hasn’t changed, either. Welcome, SeaSong. I’m sure we’ll be hearing more from you. We can always use a little humor on this site.</p>