<p>People are paid solely by the supply of workers. Athletes make more because there are fewer of them for the given job. Becoming a professor is not all to hard, most of them couldn’t cut it in industry anyway.</p>
<p>Profs in professional schools brought in from industry make far more than the tenure track guys in many cases.</p>
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<p>Not exactly. In order to get tenure at many schools, including Liberal Arts Colleges, Comprehensive Universities (non-research, usually master’s level institutions) and, increasingly, many community colleges, professors must publish. The requirement for how much you need to publish will vary from institution to institution, and from departemtn to department within an institution, but publishing is an important part of tenure and promotion decisions at most colleges and universities.</p>
<p>I agree, I know that many CCs are requiring that, the only way to get around it is to be an adjunct, but than you are living semester by semester and taking the classes that are left over.</p>
<p>I maybe taking a leap, but I think CC’s might be requiring it now is due to the fact that many states now have programs, if you go to a CC for 2 yrs, you can transfer over to a state. This means they want some type of fluency between the two.</p>
<p>Inthebiz, by publish or perish I do not mean that one has to have some publications as part of their record to be considered for tenure, but that one has to have primarily publications as part of their record for tenure. </p>
<p>While there is an expectation to publish in lots of places, for most schools much heavier weight is placed on teaching and admin., not on the quantity and quality of publications. Simply no comparison between a research school standard and a teaching school (never in my life heard of it at community college though… then again what some people call research I would call something else). in a research institution, the norm would be publishing regularly in journals with a 90-95% rejection rate; that is quite unlike having say a conference proceeding or a few C journal publication before tenure. (BTW I’m not saying the job or workload is harder in one institution or the other-- simply that the distribution of requirements is quite different). </p>
<p>I agree with Member that being a professor may not be that hard compared to an industry job. As for cutting it in industry, maybe right too as academia tolerates a lot of odd people that would be booted out of industry (though industry sure pays them a lot for their borrowed expertise). But I would disagree that becoming one is easy. Sure, getting a PhD at a no-name school and then teaching 8 classes at a community college may not be quite the challenge for some; but going to research focused universities for 8-10 years, and the publish or perish years before tenure can be brutal. Not for geniuses of course like Member who has obviously experienced it and succeeded (I know some people like that!), but certainly for everyone else. </p>
<p>If it were so easy in professional schools at top universities, the salaries would be much lower (since everyone would be flocking into that occupation and bring the wages down).</p>
<p>Hmom5, your opinion on professionals from industry vs. tenure track doesn’t match at all my experience (unless you mean truly known entities to the general public). Or do you mean on a contract basis? Few outside professionals work full time in b-schools.</p>
<p>^Who is “Member”?</p>
<p>I don’t know about people from professional backgrounds vs. tenure track PhDs. I do know the MDs. in dh’s department make more than PhDs even though neither are working with patients.</p>
<p>^Who is “Member”?</p>
<p>I don’t know about people from professional backgrounds vs. tenure track PhDs. I do know the MDs. in dh’s department make more than PhDs even though neither are working with patients.</p>
<p>I just found out that at my D’s university every employee - from groundskeeper to President of the University is eligible fo tuition assistance for children who are in college. Up to $37,000 per year per child and they can attend any university - not restricted to the university offering the benefit. I thought that was extremely generous.</p>
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<p>You’ve got to be kidding me.</p>
<p>I have to agree with teri, not only do you need that ph.D, but most competitive colleges want to see high level corporate positions.</p>
<p>I have a dual Masters, and always wanted to be a full time prof, I toyed for a very long time with the ph.D, knowing I could live as an adjunct with a Masters. When it came down to my thesis for my Masters took up 6 months of my life, I decided I did not have it in me to spend a yr on my thesis for the ph.D after taking 1 more yr in classes on top of that. ph.D’s thesis’s are very detailed…i.e. my cousins was how Tiffany affected the art design of the 1920’s. It is not like a Masters where your thesis is broader, mine was on how the automobile industry effects the economy using JIT.</p>