Pros and Cons of Common App

Unless you get specific advice to this effect, I would not assume you’ll get a quicker response with a direct app. For most schools, unless there is rolling admission, everyone in a given round of admission (EA,RD, etc.) finds out at the same time. I know there are some exceptions to that rule, but not many (offhand, I can think of William & Mary for those who get the Cypher post card, McGill’s gradual admissions release, which has little to do with when you apply, and some – but not all – honors admissions for CU Boulder). For the most part, the difference in the notification date is which application round you choose, not which app you use or how far in advance you apply. And using the schools’ apps might backfire in the sense that it’s a lot easier for your kids’ school if they have to upload letters of rec, transcripts, and other forms to fewer platforms. When you use a lot of different apps, they have to negotiate far more systems, and it could take longer.

So be sure you absolutely know there is an advantage to a direct app before you decide to go that route. I really don’t think there are too many schools where this is the case. Even if the common app is not a perfect match for the individual schools’ apps, I don’t see how the schools can show preference for their own version when common app/coalition use is so universal. Otherwise, just be sure you apply by the deadline you need to so you can maximize chances of aid: as early as possible for rolling, EA by the deadline where available, and RD everywhere else, assuming you’re not doing ED (with a fixed EA or RD deadline, earlier doesn’t matter as long as you get the app in on time).

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The acceptance of this tedious replication could be a function of my occupation. Seems more organized (-:

Truthfully ONLY spending 20 hours for 2 kids college apps sounds like a great deal.

It seems more organized to repeat the exact same task 10 times? How exactly?

And that’s 20 hours just on entering data. There is a lot more to do on apps. If 1 hour per child entering data, that’s another 9 hours each they could just be…doing the same thing over and over for no good reason, or actually working on essays.

Are you really not going to give your children the option of saving 20 unnecessary hours between them?

Are these your first children to go to college?

Again, which schools are you talking about?

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The Common Application was historically focused on more selective private schools (the ones more likely to have more generous need-based aid). Public schools are relative latecomers to it. What that means is that The Common Application is a better match for more selective private schools (which tend to want essays and recommendations), while being less of a match for what many public schools look at in admissions (some of which do not use essays and/or recommendations, or want very different kinds of essays). Note that many more selective private schools do not have their own applications, but accept only The Common Application, sometimes along with other shared applications. In contrast, public schools are more likely to have their own applications, or use shared applications for schools within their own state.

It also increases the likelihood of copy-paste errors when entering the same information into multiple applications.

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Also, applications for need-based financial aid mainly rely on shared applications. For US domestic students, most colleges use either FAFSA or FAFSA + CSS Profile (the latter is more common with more selective and generous private schools). Relatively few use FAFSA + their own form or only their own form.

They are my first and last - thank God. (-:

Any school that requires common app - np.

They have not decided on schools yet.

Yes I see CSS will likely be required.

Where are you hearing this? As has been mentioned, this likely isn’t the case, with the possible exception of rolling admission schools.

If they are looking at any rolling admission schools, now is time to get those applications submitted. If quicker responses is what you want, it seems you’re already behind schedule.

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Just confirming I was referring to St Andrews in Scotland.

Have you set up a common app practice account to look at it yet?
If not- you should do so.

One huge plus with the common app- the student can set up their account way in advance and get all of the ‘common app section’ information loaded up before applications even open. This is really helpful.
My D26 had all this filled out at the beginning of the Summer after her junior year. Since she was getting it done so early- she could easily slow roll it and just spend a bit of time every few days instead of trying to get it done with a deadline looming plus all the other application stuff that was needed to get done.

Also, you can view what the schools require- though they update every year- so do not get too far ahead with school specific items since those are subject to change.

I actually understand this sentiment- I prefer to compartmentalize actions- even if that means duplication. But I assure you, in this instance it is not really needed.

Just in case you are not aware- as soon as the student(s) submit the application, within 24-48 hrs they will be given a link to create an account with the schools application portal. At that point- there is no difference in the process from those that used the common app or the direct app. They will be using that schools application portal from then on. It will list all the to do’s and any missing items.

I doubt that the admissions officers will ever know how the application was submitted. So the ‘impersonal’ aspect will not come into play. Schools that care about that will care more about demonstrated interest instead of application used (if they even know what application was used).

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You are correct. Common may ask for more than the school does. Let’s say you do ten apps. It will actually show you, this section is required by seven of the schools.

I don’t think there’s any evidence a school answers direct apps quicker. There are some that answer quickly period - like Iowa State. When my son applied to Bama, they weren’t on common and he heard in a week. Some, like I mentioned UMN (at the time) and School of Mines had their own apps or you could use common. But what they did was marketing - they said here’s our app - it’s short - no this required or that required but you can do for better merit consideration. Basically they saw certain kids that are high stats and knew they would accept them - so to get them they would mail this mini app. Perhaps those answer quicker. Those were targeted to high stat kids, likely in wealthy areas. It was a gimmick. Mine used common for them - if you have more info to share already done, why use the gimmick app?

Most high end schools answer based on pre established timelines.

You say you wouldn’t do less apps and every situation is different. But on average, kids absolutely will. They strain with common to do x schools. The average kid will do less without.

And you missed the LOR part. It’s hard to get teachers to do an LOR. Now if you are asking them to do it 8 or 10 times, you are impacting them and they might simply decline.

You see common as impersonal. You know what the school sees?

Identical info.

Why - common shares with them the info they want and excludes what they don’t. And then there’s the school specific info, tailored to each school.

Your student’s choice - but I think your hypothesis is all wrong.

In the end, most schools need the students more than the students need them.

Good luck whatever you decide but your kids will have school work, clubs and more.

Applying with common is stressful.

If kids applied to ten or 15 on their own, I couldn’t imagine. The LOR part alone makes common the way to go.

I don’t know the level of schools you are applying - but looking at some top schools:

Vandy - common or coalition

Wesleyan - common or coalition

Rice - common app

Colgate - Common, Coalition

Bowdoin - Common, Coalition

that’s the first five I picked all top schools. You will likely find many schools don’t have their own app - as these five apparently don’t. But the apps they use include everything they want in their specific sections

Depending on your school list, you may not have a say in the matter.

Good luck

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The OP’s twin children are high school sophomores. They will be applying to college two years from now.

This is why I think the whole discussion is a bit premature…

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Yes, if OP finds a school specific app and that might be difficult, but after doing one or two high end schools, the kids will be worn out and begging for common.

Kids are kids - no matter how great, there’s only so much time in the day and they stress. Even with common, for high end schools, this is an arduous process.

Two other points

With individual apps, you’d have to proof read the same areas over and over and over.

Many (public) have additional sections beyond common to re-enter grades - SRAR or something similar - that’s even more pain in the butt work you have to do.

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OP - Do not underestimate the amount of work that is required in applying to colleges. My daughter applied to “only” 8 schools and had 19 unique essays to write (supplements, honors college, merit scholarships). Do not unnecessarily create more work for your children. They will be stressed out enough when the time comes.

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Ah, I guess I missed the actual age of the students somewhere. Yes, this is all premature, but hopefully OP is realizing the Common App is the way to go in most cases.

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OP, it is great that you are trying to understand the lay of the land of college admissions at this early stage.

Someone suggested making a Common App practice account for yourself - this is a great idea. I (parent) have a practice account and have found it very helpful over the course of college admissions seasons for my multiple kids.

Another aspect you might take a peek at is the Slate platform that most college admission offices use to read applications. This will be the same no matter what application platform the student used to submit their information. I don’t have a link handy - maybe someone else does - but if you google Slate reader, or slate college admissions, etc., you will find examples, particularly on YouTube. There isn’t going to be a faster response from using a college’s own app. It is all going to Slate anyway.

Notice that Slate is owned by Technolutions, which also tracks clicks on links in college email spam to track interest. Please do not underestimate the level of data collection, and tech in general, involved in college admissions. Everything that can be automated is automated, aggregated, computed. There are algorithms, mathematical modeling to predict yield. The level of data use in college admissions is intense.

This isn’t anything like olden times when we typed apps on colored paper and then struggled to find the right color to cover typos we made with an electric typewriter.

I would encourage you to look closely at your source of information that it is better, either for demonstrated interest or for a faster response, to apply using a college’s own application. Strong suggestion: if you end up verifying this tip for some particular school, please come back to update the thread, and then for all the other schools on your kids’ lists where this isn’t true, allow them to apply via Common App.

I had twins apply to college too; you want to use Common App whenever there is no disadvantage to doing so (which, I predict, is all the colleges on your kids’ list that take Common App). You are the proofreader; ideally, all apps should be printed on paper and reviewed by hand for typos.

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A student just posted a chance me for top top schools. I didn’t see any as a match except maybe Michigan - where he says his school sends a lot. Their b school process changed this year ( I think) so I went on to read about it.

What’s the first thing that pops up - Common App only

I think, for OP, this issue is going to resolve itself.

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If anything, like Georgetown and UMN, likely to find more rather than less schools on the common app by then. This discussion may end up being totally moot.

(Also there was a comment about only just turning 17 when they do this. I am not sure what that has to do with what application you choose? My kid is not quite yet 17 and has been fine with handling the application. After all, they are supposed to be heading off to college in a year …)

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Never too early to start panicking.:joy:

There’s really nothing to panic about with college admissions.

It’s 95% predictable - the biggest issue people have is not building a realistic list - either admission wise or cost wise.

The bigger issue is when you have multiple acceptances - now what? Many kids struggle on the where to choose.

But honestly, building a good list is not that hard - and with less kids attending in the future, it will be even easier.

No need to panic at all.

Good luck.