For me, the problematic part of the article is that it is framed entirely around what employers want. I don’t read Forbes or know that much about it so I’m guessing that framing is appropriate for its audience. But the topic is not particularly interesting to me as a parent. While my kids and I have discussed post-college careers in general, my discussions with my older children (college sophomore and high school senior) have never centered around guessing at employers’ wishes. They have both had to decide between ivy colleges and non-ivy colleges, and employment has not been the main driver of their decision-making --unfortunately two days out, the senior seems unwilling to make a decision at all 
, but that is a whole other topic. I don’t think of my kids as particular entitled but I do believe that they are entitled to attend the affordable college that they think will fit their social and intellectual interests best.
Yes, if the list of wealthiest colleges and universities changes materially, that would like have lasting implications. Indeed, it has in the past, there are institutions that have risen or declined in terms of perceived peer groupings as a result of rising or declining financial circumstances.
But talk about a lagging indicator! There is some shuffling around every year based on differential endowment returns and such, but generally speaking the wealthiest institutions have such a big lead as of today it would likely take quite a while before they fell very far.
So we’ll see, but the prior history of these institutions–necessarily given where they arrived–is they have always recovered from various scandals to reach new financial heights in relatively short order. This time could be different, but there are reasons why they tend to be very resilient given some time to adjust.
Agree, and I have no doubt they will course-correct. But, the emperor has been shown to have no clothes - other schools will surely, and justifiably, benefit from the ivy missteps.
Miami of Ohio was also listed as a Public Ivy at one time. My sister went there and my mother never shut up about mentioning it was a Public Ivy. It seems schools on the Public Ivy list are constantly changing, and once you’re on the list, you’re forever a Public Ivy.
Miami of Ohio is actually relatively Ivyish in terms of size, focus, campus, vibe, age, and so on.
Same with William & Mary (even more so), and some others.
As others also pointed out, somewhat ironically, Forbes is basically contributing to the ongoing “Ivy” branding by treating it as a term for objective, generic merit, and not a certain style of college that different people may or may not prefer.
Back in the 1950s, they had a combination of the scions of SES elite (from SES elite boarding schools) plus enough academic elite students (from anywhere, including public schools). The former were more numerous then, and the academic standards that they were held to were much lower than what today’s legacy applicants are held to. The actual academic elite students provided a veneer of academic elite ness to the SES elite scions, as well give top end faculty more of a reason to go there.
Also read this article this morning… and figured it would get some traction here. Really nothing new.
While I have no problem with the schools listed, not sure how you can come with a list like this, excluding all the UCs and UW.
The students might still have test scores even though the universities are test-blind. After all the article mostly talks about hard-workers, achievers that employers desire and some how test scores eliminate these schools from the list …
From Article
where at least half the applicants supplied the scores, regardless of whether they were required to do so for admission—in other words, places that still rely heavily on objective measures of success.
The University of California, meanwhile, still refuses to even look at applicant test scores, which is why none of those schools hits our list.)
UCs do not use scores for admission but still use it for placement into classes like for example English. But not sure what percent submit scores for class placement though.