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<p>If it’s so easy to discount, why not just do it, Bill? Attack the message instead of the messenger.</p>
<p>Show me where my facts are wrong. Show me where ANY state-run, bureaucratic organization has run an efficient, effective operation. Medicare? Medicaid? Social Security? Homeland Security? Food Stamps? FEMA? SHOW ME ONE.</p>
<p>The closest you can show me is the military, and even then it’s because of the chain of command structure holding it together. I know about it FIRST HAND, Bill. I had to go through two surgeries while in the Navy, and one of them took the vaunted system almost EIGHT YEARS to come to the conclusion that it was needed. It took my civilian doctor 15 minutes.</p>
<p>I have shown you example upon example over the months where the media has been nothing but a shill for ONE side of the political argument in this country. It is as undeniable as the sun rising in the east. They have lied, distorted, misreported, plagiarized, overlooked, exagerated, and understated stories simply for their own goals and those of their buddies. False documents during the election, but ignoring stories of eye-witnesses against the other side. The NYT publishing crap about Guantanamo torture only to discover their sole source was lying, and then burying the retraction on page H23. Running with the story that 12 miners were alive, only to discover they were dead. Calling the 2000 election while the polls on the east coast were still open. The journalistic malpractice goes on and on, and never once are THEY called to account for THEIR bias or incompetencies.</p>
<p>You hold up one example of where they FINALLY did their damned job and expect everyone else to bow down before them as being perfect. I’m sorry, but I’m not buying it and neither are many others here. I guess all of us are stupid and only you are smart for that, right? After all, you’re a Juris Doctor and we’re just a bunch of knuckle-dragging has-been veterans and ignorant working folk, right?</p>
<p>You, on the other hand, have more than once held up the VA and the military medical system as an examples of why we should go to a single-payer healthcare system. I’m not making that up; go look it up if your memory has failed you. Now THIS story comes out, and I use it as an example to rebut your earlier claim, and you call it “fluff”? Seems to me you simply don’t like anyone goring your particular ox with FACTS.</p>
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<p>Oh, but we have to sit here silently and respectfully while you have YOUR say, eh? Sorry counselor, it doesn’t work that way. I have the same right to sit at my computer saying whatever the hell I want to say as you do. I have that right because I am an American and even moreso because I wore the uniform of this country. Did you? </p>
<p>You have some nerve to question the service of those who served during peacetime. Where would your precious freedoms be if it weren’t’ for those who held the line against the Soviets and their ilk for 50 years? You besmirch the service of THOUSANDS of people who gave up their best years serving their country instead of going to law school and raking it in, and have the nerve to suggest that what they have to say doesn’t matter. Tell me, did that pompous ego of yours come with your law degree, or did you have to pass the bar to get it?</p>
<p>And then liberals and other “intellectuals” crow about how they’re NOT elitist. HA! :rolleyes:</p>