Quadruplets Admitted to Yale

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<p>American Indians and Alaska Natives made up 0.8% of the U.S. population in 2008. According to [Federal</a> Workforce Diversity: Why Agencies Seek Out Minority Workers - GovCentral.com](<a href=“Page Not Found | Monster.com”>Page Not Found | Monster.com), American Indians make up 1.9% of the federal workforce and 0.8% of the civilian labor force. At the Senior Pay level, American Indians are slightly over-represented. </p>

<p>This is not the case with Hispanics: they made up 15.4% of the population in 2008 but only 3.4% of Senior Pay jobs.</p>

<p>These quadruplets got into a less selective college: [These</a> Quadruplets Weigh Enrolling as a Foursome at Hartwick College - The Choice Blog - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/05/hartwick/]These”>These Quadruplets Weigh Enrolling as a Foursome at Hartwick College - The New York Times)</p>

<p>The truth stated simply, educating all serves the nation best. Strengthening the weakest link of america, strengthens all of america. Let’s look beyond one program see the big picture.</p>

<p>Offering the most preeminent opportunities to those who have demonstrated the highest degree of academic and extracurricular talent and contributory potential placed within the social and economic framework in which these accomplishments were attained deserve the greatest educational opportunities. This is truly a society’s greatest obligation to society.</p>

<p>Private institutions aren’t obligated to bend to society’s will. They’ll accept who they want to accept, and if they reject an applicant who they deem unfit for the university they have every right do so. This so-called “fairness” that everyone is suggesting is unfair to lower-class minorities. They can’t just pack up and go off to Exeter or Andover, they’re stuck at the (usually poor) public schools that cannot offer them the opportunities afforded by other schools. This belief that “whoever is the best will do the best” idea is ridiculous. It’s simply not feasible to expect stand-out minority students at under-performing schools (many of whom come from cultures that are currently critical of higher education) to perform at the same level as Andover students.</p>

<p>I was happy for them, and I think that at least one of them (the writer girl) would have been accepted regardless of race. The others would have been just as strong as most of the other candidates.</p>

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<p>It is not fair to lower-class individuals regardless of race when one does not have the proper opportunities to demonstrate their aptitudes. Thus, I maintain my firm belief that accomplishments must be taken into the context in which they were achieved.</p>

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<p>This thread really has not discussed the quadruplets at all. It was rather one that sought to determine the more proper direction for this issue since those who truly receive the greatest amount of biased treatment are those from majority groups who display the highest degree of scholastic, cocurricular, and personal merit.</p>

<p>mifune wrote: “It is not fair to lower-class individuals regardless of race when one does not have the proper opportunities to demonstrate their aptitudes. Thus, I maintain my firm belief that accomplishments must be taken into the context in which they were achieved.”</p>

<p>From my experience, this is exactly what Yale and peer institutions strive to do. They expend extra efforts in areas traditionally underserved by top college admissions – this includes not only urban (mostly minority) schools but rural and other out-liers too.</p>

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actually top elite private schools offer good need-based financial aid AND admit on merit. its people who are middle-class, who earn too much to be eligible for finaid, but too little to send their kids to 30k a year private schools, who cant afford to go to exeter or andover</p>

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<p>you’re right, but from personal experience, this aid doesn’t always cover required class trips, extra required books, tutors, extra study aids, instruments/equipment etc =. Last year, my school calculated the actual cost of attendance. In addition to the tuition, there was an extra $2000+ per year of uncovered expenses. The school will cover part of it, but not all. no bueno</p>

<p>Just thought I would bring this article up about a book about inequality and aa from a Princeton professor:</p>

<p>[Princeton</a> University - Perspective on: Affirmative action and the racial achievement gap](<a href=“http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/34/81K42/index.xml?section=featured]Princeton”>http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/34/81K42/index.xml?section=featured)</p>

<p>lol at this whole thread. But it does remind me of the last time my mediocre public school sent kids to ivies. Twin, black, recruited football players who choose to go to Harvard and Princeton. The funny thing is they both got accepted to Yale and denied them. I think they graduated from college a year or two ago.</p>

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<p>Most lower-class applicants are completely unaware of these schools and would therefore have no concept of the schools’ generous financial aid.</p>

<p>@LuciaB: In the article that you cite, Epsenshade asserts many fine points on the race-achievement gap issue. Essentially, AA does not in any way act to bridge the achievement gap between the races which should be our ultimate focus rather than propounding policies that do nothing to attend to this concern.</p>

<p>The verdict: All four Crouch quads will attend Yale. [Connecticut</a> Quadruplets Will Attend Yale - The Choice Blog - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/27/quad/]Connecticut”>Connecticut Quadruplets Will Attend Yale - The New York Times)</p>

<p>Hahahahahah Buckland from Wisconsin! Yes!</p>

<p>the chen or patel or whatever thing…i totally agree xP</p>

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<p>I think it was quite natural for that to eventually be the case, given that the December press release closely acquainted them with Yale. I would suspect that the media attention did have an effect on their candidacies elsewhere, however, particularly if they applied to Yale’s peers.</p>

<p>They’re gonna be my classmates next year. Cool!</p>

<p>Relax people… AA/Legacy/Connections/Wealth can only get you so far… unless you’re Barack Obama or Paris Hilton. I just refuted my point… woops.</p>