Questbridge Scholarship - 2008

Paying for College Access Programs (Questbridge, Posse)
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<p>For all Questbridge finalists, matched or not, buried in the article which appeared in the Wall Street Journal regarding Questbridge is the following little nugget: “Their names are also kept in a pool for other opportunities, such as when an employer needs an intern or law schools are seeking low-income talent down the line.” “Their” refers to all finalists regardless of match status. Here’s the link to the article: [CollegeJournal</a> | News & Trends](<a href=“WSJ in Higher Education | Trusted News & Real-World Insights”>WSJ in Higher Education | Trusted News & Real-World Insights)</p>

<p>So far as listing being a Questbridge finalist on your other applications, if it were me I would, no doubt about it.</p>

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<p>I’m doing it…maybe it’ll be some kind of hook…who knows!</p>

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<p>How many were matched this year?</p>

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<p>2blue, nice article!!!</p>

<p>is it true that a lot of QB finalist get in RD to the LACs (amherst, williams, swarthmore…)?</p>

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<p>and whoa! amherst took 133 kids from QB last year!!! that’s A LOT things are looking up guys for RD ;)</p>

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<p>How many got into PYS through RD?</p>

<p>Well PS since Y wasn’t Qb last year.</p>

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<p>collegehopeful, the article in the link shows a total of 62 acceptances for Stanford and 47 for Princeton. The QB student profiles for 2006 ([QuestBridge:</a> Students: Student Profiles](<a href=“QuestBridge”>QuestBridge)) shows 9 were matched to Stanford and 10 to Princeton, so the regular decision numbers were evidently 53 Stanford and 37 Princeton in 2006.</p>

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<p>Stanford takes 53 while Amherst takes133 and Pomona takes 65. This doesn’t seem right for some reason. I think it means they made 62 offers of which 9 were taken.</p>

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<p>Nine were “actual” College Matches for Stanford. You can see the names of the students in the QB link I posted. </p>

<p>In 2006, for all the partner schools a total of 103 College Match offers were extended. (See [2005</a> National College Match Program Results - Acceptance Rates](<a href=“http://www.questbridge.org/cmp/chances.html]2005”>http://www.questbridge.org/cmp/chances.html))
In 2006, for all partner schools a total of 545 regular acceptance offers were made (See [National</a> College Match Program: 2006 Regular Admissions Admit Statistics](<a href=“http://www.questbridge.org/students/profiles_class2011/reg_admit_stats.html]National”>http://www.questbridge.org/students/profiles_class2011/reg_admit_stats.html))</p>

<p>I feel confident the figures in the graph include all offers made by a college to QB students. The figures are listed as being “Acceptance Offers.” There is no reason to omit the College Match numbers, and just list Regular Decision numbers. The point of the graph is to show how much of a difference QB is making in getting this pool of kids to these colleges. The number of students who accepted non-binding offers through Regular Decision is, of course, lower. </p>

<p>Let’s look at Amherst since we have the most data for it. From the College Match profiles we can easily see Amherst made 5 binding College Match offers. Since the WSJ article graph shows Amherst alone with 133 acceptance offers, the figures have to include regular decision numbers. As stated above, there’s no rationale to omit College Match numbers. The article opens, “Last year, when Amherst College welcomed 473 new students to its idyllic campus, 10% of them came from QuestBridge.” Therefore I conclude Amherst had a total of 47 QB kids. Five of these have to be College Match students, and the remaining 42 were those who actually accepted from the 128 regular decision offers. </p>

<p>Using the same reasoning, I think Stanford made 9 College Match offers and 53 Regular Decision offers.</p>

<p>Amherst is known for its outreach in search of diversity, so it doesn’t surprise me that it led the pack in the total number of acceptance offers for 2006.</p>

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<p>It still seems low considering the relative sizes of each institution. You think P and S will take more?
I expect Y to take more especially since they accepted 19 through college match which seems pretty high.</p>

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<p>Well, it looks like last year they both made the majority of their offers through the Regular Decision process, so I don’t know why this year would differ in that regards. I have no idea whatsoever on actual figures.</p>

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<p>Im still somewhat confused as to what differntiates a Finalist who is accepted RD compared to one who is accepted as a Match Finalist to Stanford, Yale, and Pton since the Fin aid is THE SAME essentially. Ugh…calliing Qbridge the CEO said finances were a factor in colleges selecting match recipents so I’m thinking that to get the Match scholarship your EFC has to be 0.</p>

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<p>Thats whats scaring me. My EFC was zero so why would I get in RD if I couldn’t get in now?</p>

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<p>Do you have stats for Pomona? Their website said 65 students were finalists but how mnay offers did they make during RD? </p>

<p>Is Pomona like Amherst and willing to do anything for diversity?</p>

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<p>collegehopeful78 True that. But I mean we should still have hope. almost 5 times the amount of people will get in RD than with the match. Like 5 people were match ed on CC, which statistically means 25 more of us should get in…just be happy with that stat and don’t question it ;)</p>

<p>lol, that’s what i’m doing.</p>

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<p>lol. I guess. I just want Stanford or Pomona so badly. I hate the east coast and the pretentiousness found here not to mention the weather. I just wanna get the **** out of NYC so badly.</p>

<p>Sorry for ranting.</p>

<p>Yea I never received any conformation of admission materials by Stanford. Did you?</p>

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<p>Just click on the student profiles link above in post #1187. Go through the list and count how many College Matches were made by Pomona. Subtracting that from the 65 will give you the number of regular decision acceptance offers. That’s how I came up with the figures for S & P. I don’t think any of the partner schools could be described as “willing to do anything for diversity.” Instead, I think they are very committed to viewing applications holistically.</p>

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<p>You might want to consider Rice as well. I’ve read some of the threads over on its board and it sounds like a great place with warm temperatures.</p>

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<p>I got this email from Yale; i’m sure everyone who has ranked Yale received it also. So basically, we can’t revise anything for Yale…that sucks! My application was finished in such a short amount of time, and I was hoping to improve it for RD. Oh well, is this the same for other QB partner schools also? Can we revise our QB applications before they are forwarded to RD colleges?</p>

<p>Anyways, here’s the email…</p>

<p>Dear xxx,</p>

<p>Thank you for making Yale one of your ranked choices in QuestBridge’s National College Match Program. Although you know by now that we did not select you in the matching round, we want you to know that we would like to give further consideration to your application. We received more applications than we were able to match, and we expect to offer admission to a substantial number of Questbridge Finalists in our Regular Decision process this coming spring.</p>

<p>If you have already submitted the Common Application, Yale Supplement, and the other required forms, your Regular Decision application is ready for review by the Admissions Committee. It is therefore not necessary to submit any additional information, though you may mail our office a brief letter updating us on any achievements or activities since you submitted the Common Application. You should also make sure to give your high school guidance counselor the Midyear Report to be filled out and submitted to us once your first semester grades are available.</p>

<p>Also, please remember that all financial aid at Yale is need-based. The Questbridge finalists who are admitted during our Regular Decision round will have the same access to our generous financial aid as all other applicants, and we are committed to meeting 100% of a family’s demonstrated financial need.</p>

<p>The Regular Decision financial aid application differs slightly from the one you completed for the College Match. For example, if you completed the 2008-09 CSS Profile Application and sent a copy to Student Financial Services without submitting it to the College Board, you must now submit it to the College Board for processing. (Your financial aid application will not be complete if we’ve only received a copy of the Profile Application.) Please note that if you have already submitted to us your parents’ 2006 tax returns there is no need to send another copy. Also, students who are U.S. citizens will have to complete the Free Application for Federal Student Aid, or FAFSA form, in addition to the CSS Profile. Feel free to visit the financial aid office website to find more detailed directions for completing your Regular Decision financial aid application and to contact our financial aid office at <a href=“mailto:sfs@yale.edu”>sfs@yale.edu</a>.</p>

<p>Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any questions about Yale in the coming months. The best email address to use is <a href=“mailto:questbridge@yale.edu”>questbridge@yale.edu</a>. I wish you the best of luck with all of your college applications, and we look forward to reviewing your application again this spring.</p>

<p>Sincerely,
The Yale Admissions Office</p>

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<p>If you weren’t matched, it’s most likely because you weren’t an URM. Let’s look at some facts:</p>

<p>Match recipients in 2006:
Average SAT score: 1311
top 5% of class: 69%
top 10% of class: 88%
Asian: 13%
URM: 70%
White: 15%</p>

<p>RD in 2006:
Average SAT score: 1365
top 5% of class: 74%
top 10% of class: 92%
Asian: 32%
URM: 29%
White: 33%</p>

<p>On average, those who got in RD were stronger than match recipients. Funny, eh? You’d think the match recipients would be the strongest, but once again, it appears that colleges are bending over backwards to get URMs and will lower the standards for them. Of course, I’m not saying the URMs were weak, and I do acknowledge that they may or may not have had more adversity. At any rate, the algorithm that is the heart of the program truly makes the whole process a crapshoot, so anyone who’s feeling discouraged should feel better knowing that they have a much better shot RD.</p>