@gigglebot3, though Edinburgh & St. Andrews (and McGill and Toronto) are also research-focused public universities and thus comparable to the better state schools in the US like UW-Madison/UNC/UCLA/UCSD (who’s OOS tuition is a little less than American privates as well). In fact, there’s probably even less hand-holding at those foreign schools than American state schools. Granted, arguably, NYU (a giant private) is similar to those state schools outside of its famous programs like Stern & Tisch but costs more. Tuition at Edinburgh, St. Andrews, and McGill actually depends a fair bit on major as well, and for some majors, OOS tuition at UW-Madison is comparable to those at those foreign unis. If you want an urban setting, UCLA and UCSD are also urban and very strong in some majors. Granted, IU is also strong in some areas.
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