<p>lol ok thanks guys</p>
<p>What is going on here, copyxmkii? Affirmative action* is prohibited* in many institutions by state statute. Ever hear of the Supreme court?</p>
<p>Private colleges aren’t held by this standard, however and some do practice preferential admissions for whomever they choose. Some actually desire Asians. Some desire more internationals – especially full pay ones. It’s up to them.</p>
<p>Schools that might give preferential treatment to Perm Resident Indians would be very small colleges that are trying to increase their diversity. These tend to be lesser known (but some that offer great educations). Unless you have a particular desire or interest in these, follow coypxmkii’s advice and just apply.</p>
<p>There is no hard-and-fast rule as to who is an URM. For the Ivies, it is true that a URM is typically an African-American, Hispanic, or Native American. However, in some schools in the South, Asians are under-represented and would get special consideration. It depends on the school.</p>
<p>^^^ really?</p>
<p>I thought asians are well represented through all states. There are asians in all states.</p>
<p>Indians are an overrepresented minority at top US colleges but are underrepresented at lesser known/lower ranked schools.</p>
<p>rharan, copy & jason:</p>
<p>It is true that some states, including CA, MI and FL cannot by law practice AA.</p>
<p>It is true that AA, Hispanics and NA are the groups generally considered URMs for college admissions.</p>
<p>It is true that some schools who want to increase the number of Asians attending, will include Asians as URMs. As an example, rural LACs like Amherst and Grinnell include Asians in their diversity weekend programs.</p>
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<p>Actually, private colleges are held to the general Supreme Court standard of how to apply race as an admission factor by dicta in the Supreme Court cases on that subject. This has not been litigated all the way up to the Supreme Court, but I have little doubt that a practice illegal for a state college under [Bakke[/url</a>] or [url=<a href=“Google Scholar”>Google Scholar]Gratz[/url</a>] would also be illegal for a privately operated college. The companion [url=<a href=“Google Scholar”>Google Scholar]Grutter[/url</a>] case was decided as it was on the same day as Gratz in large part to announce practices that could be considered legal for the many private colleges that filed friend of the court briefs in that case and in the Gratz case. But the general rule of law in the United States at the moment is that what is legal under general federal law for state universities is all that is legal for privately operated colleges: no more and no less. And as several participants here are correctly noting, state laws can operate to entirely ban consideration of race in college admission (and that could be broadened, I’m quite sure, whether or not it has been, to take in privately colleges in each state with such a ban). Thus it is possible for an applicant who has been rebuffed for admission to a private college to seek [url=<a href=“http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/complaintprocess.html]remedies”>OCR Complaint Process]remedies</a> under federal law](<a href=“Google Scholar”>Google Scholar) in any part of the United States, as long as the facts support that.</p>
<p>Once again, participants here are asking about “representation,” and once again I point to the infrequently asked question post [about</a> what representation means](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1064853590-post14.html]about”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1064853590-post14.html). It’s hard to say what group, if any, is underrepresented until we agree what a reasonable degree of representation is.</p>
<p>I’m 1/8 native american, can I choose native american as my ethnicity on college apps?</p>
<p>I’m 0% African-American, but since my ancient ancestors came from Africa, can I claim that as my race?</p>
<p>Other than college apps, have you ever idenified as Native American? Have you ever celebrated the culture?</p>
<p>Exactly.</p>
<p>Identify your race as what you think you are. If that heritage is really important to you, then yea, say it.</p>
<p>I haven’t previously identified myself as Native American and am not active in the culture… I suppose I should be checking white</p>
<p>Can’t you identify with whatever race you think you are? How would you prove your race anyway</p>
<p>echogal, not so fast. I too am also partially Native American. The amount of NA blood is not the issue. The issue is whether your tribe would include you on its official roll. Different tribes have different rules. Those tribes with Indian gambling tend to require more than the tribes that do not, since making it on the roll qualifies you for a financial share of profits. There are some smaller tribes that require as little as 1/128th. Check with your tribe. If you can qualify for its roll, you are Native American for purposes of applying to college. If you do qualify, I recommend you apply to Stanford. More than any other top school, Stanford very much wants to have Native Americans at its school.</p>
<p>tokenadult; thanks for the flynn link! Intriguing stuff!</p>
<p>I am white and part Algonquin, heritage from Three rivers, Quebec. I am a united states citizen NY resident. My chances of getting in to Cornell of CMU are a bit on the reach side but not by too much. Canada provides Indian status to citizens to get benifits. However being a US citizen that doesn’t matter. Colleges ask for a tribal enrollment number, i hear not putting it down negates the advantage. But you dont get one if your not american. Does the Canadian Indian provide the same advantage as if with tribal #?</p>
<p>Regarding AA in other aspects of excellence like the NBA, its just not feasible. My brother has played basketball for several years and there simply arent that many Asian Americans that come to tryout and make the team. Athletes have rankings based on their stats and then recruiters only bother with the top ranked ones by going and watching their games and practices. Colleges dont have this added benefit. The best they can do is interview and call their counselors. But they also will only bother with the ones that are qualified, because after you are qualified regarding your stats they look at other factors to make their very difficult decisions.</p>
<p>^ ^ I have no evidence one way or the other on whether colleges in the United States treat First Nation applicants from Canada differently from other Canadian applicants, but in general I suggest that if you have some aspect of your background that is truly unusual, you may as well mention it in optional parts of your application. </p>
<p>Good luck in your applications.</p>
<p>Thanks tokenadult. if an resources surface please let me know.</p>