<p>a lot of things are hypocritical and contradictory to a point where it makes no sense.</p>
<p>Model minority… you don’t complain, they won’t give it to you.</p>
<p>Sums up the whole Asian argument.</p>
<p>Well, my family would be counted in “Asian” category but I support the idea of AA as long as it is practiced in appropriate manner and magnitude. I think the current problem is that so many qualified students simply categorized as Asians encounter too much disadvantage in college admission.
There is no perfect solution to it but I think it would be no longer a big problem if “Asians” disadvantage compared to Whites is not observed. It could be done with slight reduction in athlete recruitment and legacy in many selective colleges. (I know that emphasis differ by colleges.) I believe the most important point is to practice AA appropriately.
A bit off topic. Not a few Japanese people feel guilty over Koreans, Chinese and other Asians because of their previous generations’ acts in Asian countries while others still have sense of discrimination. There is no immediate and perfect solution to it. Only efforts in increasing mutual understanding may change this, I guess.</p>
<p>Your basic tenet has merit. However, what colleges will actively give preferential treatment to Palestinians who reside in the USA is another matter. If you actually were a top student living in Israel or the occupied territories, that would be a definite point of interest. </p>
<p>In my community are escapees from Iraq, Yugolsavia and others. I know them because some of their kids go to school with mine. In 10 years, should they get preferential treatment even they live in one of my state’s best school districts? Who is to say?</p>
<p>But it’s pointless to argue whether one “should” be considered more than another. You will or you won’t.</p>
<p>I am tiring of this “I am more of a victim than you are” mentality. It seems like everybody is looking for some kind of special treatment in applying to American universities. When everybody becomes a special, disadvantaged minority, then nobody is a special, disadvantaged minority.</p>
<p>It almost has come to the point on CC, where merit, talent and academics are an afterthought.</p>
<p>How does this beat Native American?</p>
<p>I think you mistakenly got this idea that affirmative action is actually about helping people who are disadvantaged. It’s actually about publishing wonderful things in your viewbook and getting money from an equally faux government.</p>
<p>What are you talking about, there are plenty of Palestinians. In my area alone they are some and are quite affluent as well. But there are many immigrants in the area where I live.</p>
<p>And some Palestinians definitely have an easy life, judging from the number of businesses some of them own. Also you are missing the point entirely, the people who are recent immigrants that I know are extremely well to do because they were able to get here in the first place. Nearly all the people in my friend group are first gen and well to do and their parents make a heck of alot more than mine.</p>
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<p>You may be overestimating the rarity of Palestinians in United States higher education.</p>
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<p>Uh ok. So we should give bonus points from being from a very small minority group?</p>
<p>I’m sure that Palestinians aren’t really that underrepresented in colleges in America, or any other part of the world.</p>
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<p>You must have a very strange sense of logic then.</p>
<p>There are a ton of oppressed immigrants from everywhere, not just Palestinians.</p>
<p>I’m sure that there financial situation can change once they emigrate.</p>
<p>It is still about guilt, monstor. African Americans have done a much better job of advertising their victimhood than Asians, and a much better job of passing that sense of victimhood to subsequent generations. There’s Black History Month, Martin Luther King Day, literally hundreds of schools and streets named after African American leaders, there’s Jesse Jackson and Al Sharton, the NAACP, BET, the list is endless. Who do the Asians have? While slavery is taught for weeks at a time pretty much every year a kid’s in school, the Exclusion Act, the railroad workers, the Internment decision, etc. are rarely mentioned and when they are they are mentioned in passing. The only constant lesson in history we get involving Asians is how the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. For this reason, no one – and I mean no one – in America feels guilty about how Asians were treated historically, but we should. I’m no expert, but my experience is that the Asian culture also doesn’t encourage people to be loud and advertise their pain. In fact, I can’t even imagine an Asian holding a press confederence to yell about past discimination. That would be weird to see.</p>
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<p>Why should I feel any more guilty about the treatment of Asians than Asians should about the treatment of blacks?</p>
<p>I think there are a lot of people of varied backgrounds who are just trying to make current society better, without keeping score about who was most victimized by whom. Individuals were victimized by other individuals all over the world, but [overfocusing</a> on “race” can cause us to miss opportunities to learn about our individual neighbors](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1062907620-post72.html]overfocusing”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1062907620-post72.html).</p>
<p>RacinReaver, it seems to me that modern American society is all about feeling sorry for past mistakes. My point was that if we are going to feel sorry for today’s African Americans for the sins of our forefathers, we should also feel sorry for today’s Asians since their forefathers also suffered greatly. Personally, I share Martin Luther King’s dream of a country where color doesn’t matter. Unfortunately, we don’t live in such a country. It seems to me that color matters as much now as ever before. So why should we limit our current sympathies (and government programs) to only one race treated regretably?</p>
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Because no group should feel bad for another group. Our current society should not have to pay reparations for the damage of past societies, especially not through reverse discrimination.</p>
<p>But if you want a more direct answer to your question, Asians were discriminated against by Americans, whereas Asians have had virtually no affiliation with African-Americans, which is why according to our politically correct society Caucasians are meant to sympathize with Asians.</p>
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While this would probably be the most pathetic and shallow reason fathomable for racial affirmative action, I definitely see what you’re saying and I seriously hope this isn’t true.</p>
<p>so many things in this world are pathetic and shallow monstor, I hope you realize that someday</p>
<p>^Of course I realize that, which is why I’m not denying that it’s a possible motivation for affirmative action.</p>
<p>Lol…I think AA creates more racism than it prevents. Many, like myself, become almost bitter and “race-crazy” when they see that blacks, indians, and hispanics (not counting the white ones from Spain) get into college when they have horrible ECs/SATs/Grades whereas Asians (minorities who were just as abused as hispanics) OWN EVERYONE on the SAT. I will stop my “semi-racist” attitude when they stop discrimating against intelligent whites and asians. For the love of God, let the ivy league be for the MOST intelligent people, regardless of ones race.</p>
<p>It’s not like they’re letting in idiots just because they’re black or hispanic.</p>
<p>It should never be just a numbers game.</p>