<p>Ok, should I just choose not to put my race if I am Asian? What about an asian country like Malaysia, is that any different? Or does it still scream “ANOTHER Asian??!”</p>
<p>Malaysian falls under the Asian category.</p>
<p>I think you would be best off omitting your race on your application.</p>
<p>Okay, I’m kind of confused. On the Common App, there is the section for ethnicity and race. I marked that I’m Hispanic/Latina for the ethnicity question… but I don’t know what to put for race. My family comes from Colombia. I’m not really anything listed there…</p>
<p>I’m only half Hispanic so I check white, but you could check multiple boxes or multiracial/biracial. I hope everything works out with you … I looked at your thread posts and we have somewhat similar credentials, good luck with everything =)</p>
<p>Well, thank you! Same to you as well. :)</p>
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<p>that was unnecessary… please direct your hate somewhere else. Not everybody has enough time as you to “lurk” the internet. Some people are busy working to provide for their families. Sorry if you were joking, but to me it sounded like you were speaking condescendingly to Entertainer just because you are mad.</p>
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That number is so insignificant that you might as well worry about the legacies, athletic recruits, and donators. Even if there are rich latinos and blacks, they do not spend money on SAT prep and tutoring as extensively as asians. Every single tutoring center and SAT prep in my city(that I know of) is owned by an asian and is mostly attended by asians. I have many asian friends that are poor and even their parents find a way to pay for SAT prep. The SAT was at first designed as something that shouldn’t be studied for.(at least to the extent that some carry it.) Anyways, if you are so upset with the policies of private institutions, why apply there anyways? If you are unsatisfied with their practices, chances are they might lead you in the wrong direction with their teachings. There are plenty of good public schools out there. In reply to your second sentence, I think you meant: An elite education is not the only thing that determines how successful someone will be.</p>
<p>futurexreject, first of all, we are talking not only about small number of elite private colleges. Even many of public colleges are factoring Race/ethnicity status in their admission.
In my experience, “Asians”(I don’t like this categorization) are varied in their child education. Majority of ethnic groups look emphasizing on road to independent skilled jobs for their children and not seeking “prestige” while others look seeking the best of the best. It is true that some of parents spend entire discretionary spending on education.
In NYC, SAT prep courses are conducted by Kaplan and Princeton Review. More than half of students are whites. Your observation is invalid for nationwide reality.</p>
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<p>lol, you need to lurk moar too</p>
<p>It’s a saying and not meant to be taken literally.</p>
<p>Where in the world did you get the idea I was mad? I just thought it was amusing someone thought their inability to quote was lolz-worthy.</p>
<p>There’s no need to put “sorry” if you actually aren’t.</p>
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<p>37% of blacks admitted to Duke had parents that made more than $100,000 (higher than the amount that made less than $50,000) and 54% of Hispanics (about the same number as Asians). </p>
<p>Yes, legacy and athletic admits are bad (I only have mixed feelings about donors), but it still doesn’t change anything about affirmative action. Also, we’re in the “‘Race’ in College Admissions” thread, not the “who deserves the least/most to get into college” one.</p>
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<p>Unless the test centers are actively trying not to let blacks and Latinos use them (which would be completely despicable), it’s not as if they couldn’t use those themselves. Also, there are plenty of Asians who don’t use them. </p>
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<p>Oh no, some people are willing to make sacrifices to try and get a good education!</p>
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<p>Wow, just wow.</p>
<p>First of all, did it ever occur to you that I might put my education ahead of my qualms about affirmative action.</p>
<p>There’s no reason to be so condescending. And I guess all of those devout Christians who went to Brown made a horrible, horrible decision. </p>
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<p>Being public doesn’t mean that you don’t practice AA (see the University of California and the University of Michigan), and most private ones don’t.</p>
<p>No, it isn’t, but I’d like something other than my race to determine where I go. And there’s other reasons than success in order to attend a college. I mean, there’s plenty of people who are millionaires now who are making tons of more money than my college educated parents.</p>
<p>For the new question just merged into this thread, see </p>
<p>[post</a> #4](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1062865329-post4.html]post”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1062865329-post4.html) </p>
<p>to find out that many colleges admit lots of students officially reported to the federal government as “race unknown.” </p>
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<p>[post</a> #72](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1062907620-post72.html]post”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1062907620-post72.html) </p>
<p>for the idea that lots of people from lots of “races” can think it’s a good idea to categorize people less by race, the better to notice human individuality.</p>
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Finding ways to pay just for an SAT Prep is more on the side of obsession than a simple sacrifice.</p>
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<p>So people should be penalized that other people with ethnic origins from the same continent decide to do that? Or they should even be penalized because they’re doing something their parents want them to do?</p>
<p>Ok, that’s a gross stereotype as well. I am as asian as you can get, but I live in the ghetto. Like, there’s no denying it’s the ghetto. People get shot in the ally behind my house. For at least a 1 mile radius, the people who live here are but African Americans. I’ve never taken an SAT prep class, I’ve never even spent money on an AP book or SAT book. Anyone ever heard of the public library? Granted, my situation is not typical and is quite bizarre, but I know several asians who are not well-off by any means and who honestly can’t afford sat prep classes.</p>
<p>I’m curious - who’s fault is it when a school isn’t ethnically diverse?</p>
<p>Here’s an interesting link on the science behind this contentious issue: </p>
<p>[Genome</a> Biology | Full text | The ethics of characterizing difference: guiding principles on using racial categories in human genetics](<a href=“http://genomebiology.com/2008/9/7/404]Genome”>http://genomebiology.com/2008/9/7/404)</p>
<p>Discounting SAT just because some people can afford to prepare for it and some people can’t is absurd. We might as well throw out school grades. I know a lot of kids are getting paid private tutoring for their school subjects. We certainly can’t throw out the grades, right? In the end, just like every other pursuit in life, people with better resources to support their pursuit will be in a better position to beat their less resourceful competitions. I don’t see anything wrong with that. Some may argue that access to education should be excluded from this level of competition. Says who? One can even argue that the students with less builds a better and stronger character through daily confrontation with adversity that the students with more is deprived of. Who’s losing out here?</p>
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<p>Yes, this is a fact about any competitive activity. Some colleges claim that they try to level the playing field by admitting students who performed well despite limited family resources. I haven’t seen many examples of that, but I will keep looking.</p>
<p>If college selection is based on how much each candidate utilizes the resources and opportunities that are available to the candidate, then state so boldly and I think a lot of people would support it. In fact, let’s go even further, let each college create its own formula for “opportunity utilization” score. I would claim that even if we can find a fair formula with this desired intent, colleges still won’t do it; they want the flexibility the current ambiguity gives them.</p>
<p>A few months back, I attended one of those travelling road shows that colleges put on from time to time. When the college representative opened the discussion for questions, he received a lot of questions about AA, legacies, etc. He gave an interesting answer. He said, “The current system of admitting students is the worst possible system . . . except for all others.” In other words, the system is not great but if a more equitable system were possible, we would have seen it by now. </p>
<p>Admissions based on wealth alone, scores alone, connections alone, or anything other factor alone would result in homogeneity that colleges do not desire. They want a variety of smart people. What other system will give them what they are looking for?</p>
<p>^Socioeconomic AA.</p>
<p>Finances are too easy to fudge, especially if you own a business. Ask the IRS if you don’t believe me. I say this from experience. I have family members who are very wealthy, but they run much of their lifestyle through their business (trips, cars, some of the house payment, etc.). But if you look at their taxes, they aren’t wealthy. They receive a small salary. One of my uncles even rents his luxury home from his business. His rent is $800 a month on a home worth several million. On paper, his kids would qualify for socieoeconomic AA.</p>