<p>Time will tell - but you’re wrong.</p>
<p>Looks as if Boehner has the votes now. Going to hold a vote. BBA is in the bill.</p>
<p>I have to say that perhaps Boehner is coming off the best in all of this. At least he’s putting forth a bill and working to get it supported. That’s leadership, actually. Not seeing that from any other quarter.</p>
<p>Personally, I don’t care much about a BBA but as I recall the democrats were all for this back int he 90s. </p>
<p>The terrible thing about this spectactle is that clearly many from both sides only care about their own personal political win, not the good of the country. I think we have to take some responsibility in this type of person getting political power. All of us. We all essentially vote our own wallet, one way or another. Thus we are all members of “special interests” and we can be manipulated and played by charlatans.</p>
<p>Boner is dead meat!</p>
<p>Really? How is that?</p>
<p>Since the Republicans will not keep the house, he will not be the speaker</p>
<p>Oh . . . thanks for clearing that up.</p>
<p>I shouldn’t have to point this out - look at the polling on this issue. The independents do not support the GOP on these issues. I’ve voted Republican for the last 42 years and will definitely not vote Republican in the next election.</p>
<p>Actually Boehner has shown no leadership ability – what he is working so hard to get passed is a bill he knows will not make it out of the Senate. He is killing himself for nothing.
And by the way, he is supposed to be the leader of the whole Congress – not just the Republican side. Weeks ago a real leader would have ditched the hard liners and worked out deal with the moderates of both parties could support.</p>
<p>What does everyone think is going to happen here? My guess is that the House Republicans will come to agreement on something leaving it in the laps of the Senate Democrats as to whether they will let it pass or not. What happens if the Senate doesn’t let it through and comes up with a plan unpalatable to the House? What a mess.</p>
<p>I think that the senate is going to pass it. </p>
<p>I don’t think this is going to be a good moment for the democrats.</p>
<p>I also think that the GOP has learned that the tea party is useful but needs to be kept under control.</p>
<p>And I seriously doubt that Boehner will be giving up his Speaker position any time soon. He comes off very well in this. </p>
<p>Personally, I like that the bill does not resolve the ceiling issue through the next election. It needs to get hashed out before the election. It’s been clarifying.</p>
<p>If Boehner pulls this off, he will be in good stead and the Democrats will have a problem. The ball will be in their laps.</p>
<p>Just received this email from my federal credit union:
I am so sick of politicians playing politics at the expense of the American people.</p>
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Me too. Sick and tired and disgusted. </p>
<p>We don’t have political parties anymore. We have the political equivalent of ghetto gangs.</p>
<p>ETA: nice credit union.</p>
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<p>Well, we all play politics if we vote. </p>
<p>This whole saga has been clarifying for me. It could turn out to be a good thing in the end.</p>
<p>I view voting as a constitutional obligation, not a way of playing politics. The way I see it, this isn’t about the debt ceiling as much as it is about politicians posturing for the 2012 elections & trying to play the ‘blame game’ by pointing at each other. I’m disgusted with the whole lot, Dems & Republicans alike.</p>
<p>This is a dangerous game of brinksmanship.</p>
<p>I don’t think Speaker Boehner necessarily agrees with some of you. This is what he said in December, 2010 about the decision to raise the debt ceiling:</p>
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<p>Interesting that he is using the word “Adult”…it seems like they are acting anything but adult/grownup/profesional. In fact, if they were in elementary school, I might have second thoughts about having them over for a second play date because of their attitude and inability to play well with others.</p>
<p>“If Boehner pulls this off, he will be in good stead and the Democrats will have a problem. The ball will be in their laps.”</p>
<p>Yes I’m sure if he puts together a plan that the wackos holding this up agree to, the democrats will have a problem.</p>
<p>The Senate is certainly not going to pass the Boehner bill. It will pass a different bill. Then, the House and Senate will either reach a compromise or not. But since Republicans in the House can’t even seem to compromise among themselves, it’s hard to see how they could ever compromise with Democrats. You are wrong that this puts Democrats in the tougher position. Polling shows that the vast majority of Americans correctly understand that a group of Republicans is intransigent and unwilling to work together with anyone who hasn’t drunk the Kool-Aid at the tea party. Since Wall Street is letting Republicans know that a deal MUST be reached, one probably will be, somehow. Even those nuts in the Tea Party are sufficiently Republican to ultimately take their marching orders from Wall Street, aren’t they?</p>
<p>By the way, how could any sane person favor the Republican (Boehner) plan where we all go through this again in a few months??? Bad, bad, bad for the economy and the country.</p>
<p>If the econonomy is bad, guess who won’t get re-elected again. Not Boehner in 2012. It’s a win-win situation.</p>