Rank the Ivy League Schools -- According to Campus Safety

<p>Safest Ivy League Campuses, by virtue of location</p>

<p>Tier 1: In an affulent middle-of-nowhere:
Dartmouth, Princeton</p>

<p>Tier 2: In a dreary, working-class middle-of-nowhere:

<p>Tier 3: In a small, nice city:

<p>Tier 4: In a nice part of a city with dodgy parts:
Columbia, Yale, Harvard</p>

<p>Tier 5: In a dodgy part of a city with dodgy parts:

<p>That said, I think all the campuses are safe, because campus security is a priority of all these institutions. I know people who go to all these schools but Dartmouth and Princeton, and nobody has ever mentioned feeling unsafe on their campuses.</p>

<p>Wow, alpha. Nice digging you did there - Sept 21, 2000. Yeah, Harvard is really unsafe and you better keep a gun with you at all times.</p>

<p>ohno, You obviously have not been to Harvard Sq. at night lately. Hardly a place where a teenage girl (at the risk of sounding sexist) would want to be after 10pm. The cite below quoting crime stats among the urban IVY's schools speaks for itself!</p>

<p><a href="http://www.stalcommpol.org/data.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.stalcommpol.org/data.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Honestly- I always thought Columbia was pretty safe...NYC isn't as bad as most people think, its got a much lower crime rate, compared to a place you think probably has a very low crime rate.</p>

<p>columbia is safe if you stay on campus. </p>

<p>yale is prob the least safe cuz new haven sucks</p>

<p>MIT is safe, except from the students.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/01/25/usat-mit.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/01/25/usat-mit.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>And they said a UPenn study found them as the safest Ivy League campus.</p>


yale is really bad, at least one yale student is murdered there every year. columbia is down the block from harlem


Indeed, someone from my HS who now attends Yale was shot in the leg earlier this year by a stray bullet. Crazy **** happens in New Haven.</p>

<p>My perception:</p>

<p>Most safe:</p>

<h2>Dartmouth, Princeton</h2>


<h2>Brown, Harvard</h2>



<p>Least safe:

<p>I live in NYC and have frequently spent time in Morningside Heights, Columbia's neighborhood. I've never seen any reason to be concerned about safety there, even late at night. Also, I lived in Harlem for two months. Harlem isn't entirely safe, but it's nowhere near as bad as most people assume.</p>

<p>I also frequently visit Philadelphia because I have family in the area. University City, Penn's neighborhood, felt surprisingly safe as well. Even the time I was in the area late at night, it didn't feel unsafe at all. The neighborhood is well patrolled by police.</p>

<p>In any case, when evaluating campus safety, street crime is only part of the problem. Drunk students cause many incidents, such as assault, battery, vandalism and the like. These incidents can happen even on campuses in areas with very little street crime.</p>

<p>i heard some people were raped at Brown</p>

<p>I'm shocked, who knew the most famous college is the most dangerous (among Ivies).</p>

<p>and i dont think its the most famous</p>

<p>Hmm. I'm from Virginia and my son has some opportunities to play baseball for some Ivies. But these schools seem so unsafe, I don't think it's worth it.</p>

<p>Archi is referring to Harvard having the highest incidents of violent crime that were noted above.</p>

<p>Nice move though. I know for a fact that people have been raped on all of these campuses just about every year. Whether it is and how it is reported depends on the case and the school. I've personally never heard of anyone getting raped but I know that there has been sexual assault on campus. However, I also know of 0 incidents (and these would have been reported) of non-date rape rape on campus.</p>

Hmm. I'm from Virginia and my son has some opportunities to play baseball for some Ivies. But these schools seem so unsafe, I don't think it's worth it.


<p>Violent crime is extremely rare at Brown. Normally like 3 or so "muggings" (hey, give me your wallet! and then they run off) a semester that I've seen on the crime reports. We're in an area of the city where the median income surrounding us is six-figures.</p>

<p>Cities are cities and there are some dangers associated with risky/dumb behavior in any city.</p>

<p>Though I've never been to UPenn or PTon, of the other Ivies, only Yale felt really sketchy to me. I spent a summer working there and I did not like walking around at night, and I'm a fairly large guy from outside NYC.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Public_Safety/CCR/2008/index08.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Public_Safety/CCR/2008/index08.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Detailed crime report by our Department of Public Safety.</p>

<p>ranking safety depends a lot on the location of the school. there are two explanations for an extremely safe campus. either 1) they are extremely isolated, and there is less chance for crime (for example, Cornell or Dartmouth), or 2) they're located in a ghetto area with high crime rates and their campus police department has had years of experience and the school spends a lot more on security (for example, Penn). It's hard to compare campus safety when each security department has different levels of crime to deal with.</p>

<p>I imagine Penn would seem sketchy west of 40th street if you weren't used to it...but you get used to it. And of course, like the Modern English song, "it's getting better all the time.."</p>

<p>For the record,
yale is really bad, at least one yale student is murdered there every year

is completely inaccurate. I'll be charitable and assume it comes from misinformation, not an outright lie.
There hasn't been a murder of a Yale student since 1998. The case was never solved - and there is no particular reason to believe that it was a random act of violence resulting from the dangerousness of New Haven, rather than the sort of murder that could happen anywhere, where the murderer knew the victim and had some particular motive. </p>

<p>I'm not going to get into all the silly and petty claims about which Ivy is the most dangerous (which are generally made by partisans of particular schools to disparage rival schools), but a statement like the above is outlandish and must not be believed. And given that someone has already quoted it, it seems like it's being given credence. </p>

<p>In any case, none of these schools are actually particularly dangerous, and I don't think anyone should be deciding not to go to a particular Ivy on account of the risk of crime. </p>

<p>Finally, remember that most crime at basically any school, including the Ivies, is committed by students - as modestmelody reminds us, the most serious crime occurring with any frequency on almost all campuses is date rape.</p>

<p>omg these campuses have poor people near them!</p>