Rapid heart rate and doctors stumped: any CC ideas?

Ha. I know who I’m voting for but it’s like a car crash… I can’t look away @-)

I have tried the vagal maneuvers (I didn’t know their name, thanks @jaylynn !) and do them when I am having heart palpitations or it jumps up really quickly.

I haven’t tried the triangled or squared breathing so I will definitely try that :slight_smile:

Now this I haven’t heard of. I will start keeping a food journal and see if I see any correlation.

I do have an app that records when I take my meds every day. I can also record food and events on it I think. I’ll start doing that.

I could stretch for a fitbit HR. Does anyone know how reliable it is?

Iron completely normal. PCP remains at a loss. She ordered another blood test that they look at under a microscope. I think she called it a smear test or something along those lines.

I’m going to a new cardiologist (still waiting on appointment) and I’m also going to do a stress test. Scheduled for Halloween 8-X

Hang in there, @romanigypsyeyes!

Thanks @doschicos. I’m doing just fine… at this point, more amused than anything.

Mr R and my roommate have taken to trying to convince me to sell my body to science :stuck_out_tongue:

Well, it’s good to have a sense of humor about it. :slight_smile: I guess all you can do is keep ruling stuff out. I know it can be frustrating.

Re: your post from a few days ago in which you said that the PCP says that all of your thyroid tests came back normal…

What were the specific blood tests that the PCP ordered?
What were the results of each test? The actual #, I mean.
What was the ‘reference range’ for each of those thyroid blood tests?

The reason I ask is because it is possible to have a thyroid problem & to have symptoms of thyroid disease yet also have blood results which show that you are in the “normal range.” This happened to my sister.

Don’t just take the medical assistant’s or nurse’s word that “the doctor said it’s all normal.” Get a printed copy of all of your test results. It makes it a lot easier (and cheaper) if you have to get a second opinion or if you end up having to keep track over time of how your lab results have changed.

My doctor responds to all labs personally (for me at least). All of my lab results are posted to my patient portal.

TSH, 3rd Generation
Result 2.37
Range: 0.30 - 5.50

T3 (Triiodothyronine), Free
Result: 2.9
Range: 1.9 - 3.9

Thyroxine (T4),
Result: 9.4
Range: 4.9 - 12.0

You can’t get more mid-range than that! :wink:

Didn’t see this thread until just now and unfortunately have nothing to offer but my fervent wishes that you can get to the bottom of this!

@doschicos yup lol. Most of my blood work is all over the board but my thyroid? Literally textbook perfect lol. Ironically since it’s basically the one organ that should be acting up. Oy vey lol

Thanks yaupon.

Dang–sorry you are continuing to have mysterious health issues. Both my kids had POTS but over time it has mostly improved.

I was having tachycardia, but not nearly as high as your heart rates. I was put on Coreg, a beta blocker. It didn’t seem to help much but it worsened my breathing so a cardiologist who specializes in heart-lung issues switched me to zebeta, a different beta blocker. I take the lowest dose they make and it keeps my heart rate nice and low without impairing my breathing. They did a lot of cardiac testing on my including a stress echo, holter monitor, stress echo with agitated saline.

Here’s hoping you can find a good and simple solution. Sorry you’ve had so many challenges!

Adding one more update. I am anemic without any sort of iron deficiency. My PCP wonders if it’s thalasemia but neither of my parents have ever been anemic (23andMe at least says that my parents are my actual, biologic parents). I am being referred to a hematologist and I’m also requesting to go to a genetic counselor.

The anemia can possibly explain the fatigue, heart rate, etc.

The most recent blood test shows high reticulocytes which should be low if I had iron-deficient anemia.

The mystery continues :smiley:

You’ve had a CT and/or MRI, right, to look for any structural changes? Ever worn a 24 hour monitor? I ask because my bff is dealing with something similar. Her HB rate increases under period of stress, physical or emotional, despite spending the past 3+ years getting in better shape. (And she is incredibly sensitive to caffeine, even trace amounts in various foods and beverages.)

Do you eat a balanced diet? And I know you aren’t getting a “normal” sleep pattern, right? That can have impact.

This website has a very easy to follow chart that explains all of the hormones that each gland secretes, along with symptoms of deficiency and symptoms of excess of those hormones → http://www.goodhormonehealth.com/symptoms/gland_hormone_symptom_table.html

This document has a good explanation of how the thyroid gland works → http://www.goodhormonehealth.com/thyroid-cecils.pdf

BTW - the fact that your thyroid antibodies blood work came back abnormal is notable. How MUCH it is over the ‘normal’ range isn’t the issue…but it is concerning that perhaps your doctors have possibly ignored the possibility that you could have Hashimoto’s thyroid disease.

If you are taking iron supplements, don’t take them at the same time that you take your Vitamin D supplements because the Vitamin D will bind to the iron and the D won’t be absorbed as well.

Since you’re been taking prednisone for long, at some point if your doctors decide to take you off of prednisone, then you need to gradually wean yourself off of it. Otherwise, you could end up in an adrenal insufficiency situation, which can be a medical crisis/life threatening situation. The adrenal glands are complicated and they produce a few different hormones. Adrenal hormones play a role in testosterone production. They also produce the “fight or flight” response associated with epinephrine. But there’s also a hormone called aldosterone that the adrenals produce that can elevate or decrease your blood pressure & pulse. This book chapter explains it all really well → http://www.goodhormonehealth.com/adrenal-cecils.pdf

Clearly, you have a complicated medical history, so it’s important to consider your situation from a big picture point of view. The frustrating part about a lot of specialists is that they will only look at your from their individual specialty. Most endocrinologists, for example, are really only familiar with diabetes or thyroid disease and hardly ever see anybody with some of the more rare endocrine disorders…so you could be the zebra standing right in front of them, but since they are so used to seeing horses, they say that you’re a horse.

For example:
Long term use of prednisone can, over time, sometimes result in your pituitary-adrenal response being decreased. In other words, your body doesn’t produce as much adrenal hormones because you’re getting steroids in pill form. If you go “cold turkey” off of steroids, you could experience the following symptoms (sometimes they will come and go as your body is under stress) of adrenal insufficiency:

fatigue - sometimes mild, but at other times it may feel like you’re been hit by a bus and all you want to do is lay down and sleep for 6 hours.
muscle weakness
loss of appetite
weight loss
nausea
vomiting
diarrhea
low blood pressure, which falls when you stand up, causing dizziness or fainting
low blood sugar
menstrual periods can become irregular or stop altogether
dehydration

Has anyone asked you to do a 24-hour urine collection to check your catecholamine levels? Or done blood work to check your metanephrine & catecholamine levels in your blood?

If you have episodes of the following, however, then ask your doctors to do blood work to check for pheochromocytoma:
episodes of high blood pressure
rapid heartbeat
profound sweating
severe headache
tremors, especially in your hands
shortness of breath

** important to note:
Re: pheochromocytoma - According to Medscape (and this same info is on many other websites, too), lots of different medications can result in false elevations of metanephrines (http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/124059-workup#c7). For example:
tricyclic antidepressants
phenoxybenzamine
levodopa
beta blockers
labetalol
amphetamines
buspirone
methyldopa
chlorpromazine

overall, there are LOTS of prescription & OTC meds that can mess with your hormone levels, which could cause your odd symptoms that you’ve been plagued with. I think that having a sit down with your pharmacist is a good idea. Also, if you haven’t done so already, start keeping a daily journal of your symptoms. And you should especially note what you were doing just before you have these episodes of heart palpitations & such. If you don’t have one already, get one of those portable blood pressure cuffs and/or a pulse reader that you can use IN THE MOMENT when you are having those symptoms. Eventually, a pattern might emerge and that will help your team of doctors figure out what is going on.

@lookingforward yes multiple MRIs, CT scans, echocardiogram (two), and another ultrasound test to look for blood clots. Everything looks in tip top shape. I did a 48 or 72 hour holter monitor and came back fine except for

Diet: not nearly as balanced as it should be but I’m getting better. My sleep pattern is consistent but not “normal.” I sleep very late night through late morning. It’s the schedule I’ve always defaulted to whenever I don’t work a “normal” job.

@tucsonmom I’m having a hard time reading your post on mobile (not your fault- just long posts are hard to read). I will read it over when I get to a computer :slight_smile:
At this point, they’re pretty sure it’s not my hormones/thyroid. My thyroid levels are all completely fine and the thyroid antibodies that were only mildly elevated and my rheumy thinks that’s because of the lupus.