<p>i am a bit biased, but here’s my ranking:</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale/Penn</li>
<li>Dartmouth/Princeton</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Cornell/Brown</li>
</ol>
<p>Ranking methodology… well, I ranked schools with the most $$ for research/medicine and stuff. Also, by reading the brochures, i feel that some schools expose undergrads a lot more to research stuff.</p>
<p>If this is not an Ivy forum, I would put in WUStL and Duke near Yale. :)</p>
<p>My ranking for sciences/medicine/research is:</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard/Cornell</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>UPenn/Columbia/Yale/Brown</li>
<li>Dartmouth </li>
</ol>
<p>Minus Harvard and Cornell though, the Ivy Leagues would be not be very good in sciences/medicine/research.</p>
<p>How so? I thought Yale and Penn were great in sciences/medicine/research… hm</p>
<p>no, yale is terrible in the sciences
they are currently allotting a TON of money to the sciences, but they are still catching up with harvard and columbia</p>
<p>I have to put Princeton at #1…princeton has the best research opportunities in math and science. Then: </p>
<p>Harvard
Columbia
Yale
Penn
Cornell
Brown/Dartmouth</p>
<p>i dont see how you can put Dartmouth and Brown above Cornell in terms of research…Cornell has much more resources and opportunities for this</p>
<p>Cornell has the second best engineering dept of the ivies, and it is first or second in most science disciplines for the ivies. </p>
<p>I don’t understand why Cornell is considered to be so “low” in the east coast. Us west coasters consider Cornell to be above Brown and Dartmouth.</p>
<p>Speak for yourself! I’m from the West Coast, and I definitely stick Cornell @ the bottom of the Ivy heap (which is not to say it’s bad).</p>
<p>^ Where did u go to school? I went to Berkeley. The perception is that Cornell is quite a good school because of their focus on academic research. Most of the people I know have not heard of Brown or Dartmouth.</p>
<p>BTW in case you haven’t noticed, this ranking is based on science/medicine/research. Yes, you either did not notice, or do not know much about research reputations of the ivies.</p>
<p>Cornell should definitely be above Brown…regarding Dartmouth, it depends what career you want to go into…Dartmouth has a better alumni network and better recruiting for business, which might not mean anything to you if you’re interested in research and science, in which case you should go to cornell…everything works out.</p>
<p>for Computer Science it’s:
Cornell
Princeton
Brown
UPenn
Columbia, Harvard (tied)
Yale
Dartmouth</p>
<p>For theoretical physics, probably:
Harvard/Princeton
Cornell/Columbia
Yale/Penn
Brown/Dartmouth</p>
<p>Uhh Harvard is definitely not good for theoretical physics. First of all, there aren’t even that many professors in the physics department. It’s one of those more “underdeveloped” departments in Harvard. Schools good for physics are Princeton, Cornell, and Columbia.</p>
<p>Rankings are completely useless.</p>
<p>seriously, columbia has brian green, how can you rate it as second tier?
and string theory was practically invented at cornell
but harvard physics is still very good, the head of fermilab teaches there
btw, about princeton, is the institute for advanced study part of the university or not?
i was never sure about that…</p>
<p>it’s brian GREENE. spell it right. 
Harvard physics is “good,” but definitely not as good as those in Princeton, Cornell, and Columbia. I don’t now what your sources are besides the names of professors who teach there, but I got mine from physics graduates.</p>
<p>This is of less immediate relevance to undergrads, but it is more helpful than my personal opinion. I will list only the Ivies, by category, since that is what I think is desired. I have only the top 10 information handy, but if you feel that strongly about it you can probably find the full lists by searching for:
1995* National Research Council Report on Quality in Ph.D. Education in the U.S.
*Most recent report. Apparently it took 4 years to conduct, so small wonder they haven’t rushed out to do another one just yet.
Astrophysics/Astronomy
2. Princeton
4. Harvard
9. Cornell
Biochemistry & Molecular Biology
5. Harvard
6. Yale
10. Columbia (tied with Johns Hopkins)
Biomedical Engineering
5. Penn
Cell & Developmental Biology
5. Harvard
10. Yale
Chemical Engineering
9. Princeton
Chemistry
3. Harvard (tied with Stanford)
6. Cornell
7. Columbia
Computer Science
5. Cornell
6. Princeton
Ecology, Evolution, & Behavior
4. Cornell
6. Princeton
Electrical Engineering
7. Cornell
9. Princeton
Geosciences
4. Columbia
8. Harvard
9. Cornell (tied with Stanford)
Materials Science
3. Cornell
10. Penn
Mathematics
<p>In Harvard’s Astrophysics/Astronomy department, the student/PROFESSOR ratio is 3/4. One’s senior thesis tutorial is always one on one, and undergrads are more like partners with the faculty and grad students. It’s totally common for a student to be puiblished several times before graduation. How’s that for a lack of undergrad focus?</p>