Real Politics...Issues...NOT CANDIDATES

<p>bullet, you can’t have a reasonable discussion. We might be able to admit that McCain is flawed and Obama has some good qualities. We can try to discuss issues all we like but it always comes down to who’s to blame. It’s never their guy by the way (or their congress). I don’t like Bush any more than the next guy but I don’t have this lothing for him that others seem to have. If McCain were elected and things got better they wouldn’t admit that he had anything to do with it (I do agree the President typically gets far too much credit when things go well and far too much of the blame when they go wrong). </p>

<p>Just for the record, the national debt increased 1.12 trillion dollars under Clinton.</p>

<p>This ought to be interesting:</p>

<p>[Obama</a> Supports FISA Legislation, Angering Left | The Trail | washingtonpost.com](<a href=“http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/20/obama_supports_fisa_legislatio.html]Obama”>http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/20/obama_supports_fisa_legislatio.html)</p>

<p>This legislation will hack some people off…</p>

<p>“The reason that this makes sense to me is that we live on 35 acres in south Texas. Twice a seismic company has come along and dropped $1,000 on us in exchange for permission to do seismic testing on our property. There probably isn’t any oil there, but someone keeps hoping. Oil is valuable. Oil companies can sell all of the oil they can produce. It is not in the interest of oil companies to pay money for leases which will never be recouped.”</p>

<p>Thanks for doing the leg-work.</p>

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<p>I was in the mortgage industry both as a broker and a lender. The unscrupulous, yet legal things that were going on were mind-boggling. I got out because I refused to lie to people to get them to sign the papers. A great number of borrowers put themselves (along with a nice push from the broker, the lender, etc…) in a bad position because they only wanted to hear what they wanted to hear. Kinda funny…almost like politics. They didn’t want to hear the truth. It’s a sad, sad thing what is going on. It was a perfect storm of circumstances. The stories I could tell… I’m sure some others here were involved as well.</p>

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<p>Don’t despair. I am the benefit of a small percentage of mineral rights for some land in Louisiana (me and about 40 of my ‘closest’ Cajun relatives!). The land was leased several times before they got to the gas and oil. Maybe you’ll be included in a pool with some of your neighbors, and they will have more success on their property.</p>

<p>bulletandpima, this is the comment of yours to which I replied.</p>

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<p>It was not clear to me that you were simply referring to a politician’s wife, or to a military wife. Is it true that there is absolutely nothing that a wife of a politician or of someone in the military can do to assist his career? I didn’t say that a spouse couldn’t hurt their partner’s career, but it is certainly untrue that a spouse can never help and only hurt. Like most wives, I would hope, their work in being the major contributor at running the home and raising children would certainly allow for consideration as “help” in the husband’s career. Any financial contribution would also obviously be assistance. There are certainly many ways that a wife, or a husband for that matter, can help their partner’s career through a supportive, loving relationship. Choosing a laundry list of negatives about political spouses does not mean that there is absolutely nothing positive that those individuals have done to assist in their partners’ careers.</p>

<p>Back to politics and positions
Explain this to me
If McCain and Hillary Clinton were both in favor of a gas tax holiday, why didnt they, being Senators and in positions to introduce legislation,just go and introduce bills to have just that, a gas tax holiday.Why only the “lip action” why no real action? Was it just to appease the public by spouting the position? I could see say a Governor who was running ,or a former Senator, or such not beig able to follow through, but someone currently in office to legislate who didnt try to follow through appeared hypocritical to me.</p>

<p>It seems a long way from the days of “behind every successful man there is a supportive wife” if one can claim that a spouse can only hurt, not help a presidential candidate or a member of the military. Whatever one may think of Michelle Obama, would Barack have been able to run for president if she had not taken on the main task of raising their children? Would Bill Clinton not have been sunk if HRC had not stood by him during the Gennifer Flowers incident, despite her lack of cookie-baking propensities?
I believe Laura Bush helped GW a great deal, and she continues to be more popular than him.</p>

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<p>Some of us have! I was (and still am) spitting mad at the spineless Democratic cretins who voted to give Bush the OK to invade Iraq. They couldn’t climb onto that bandwagon fast enough. For that reason alone, Hillary Clinton lost my primary vote–that, and the fact that she never groveled sufficiently in apology. I don’t profess to be a great military mind, but EVEN I knew that this was a disaster waiting to happen before we ever dropped our first bomb.</p>

<p>Okay let me explain to all of you why I wrote what I did.</p>

<p>Many yrs ago, I was serving as a president for a non profit org. on base, the General’s wife had said to me…you can do this 100 times and never help your husbands career, you can also do it once and hurt it. This is true for even civilian counterparts…you can be the best spouse, donate time to civic organizations, be PTA president, hold down a prestigious job, entertain the bosses, but the minute you say or do something you can quickly become a liability. You can be June Cleaver or the perfect husband…go out, get sloppy drunk and say something stupid at the office dinner party and you have now hurt your mate. Be sober and have a political arguement with the boss will do just as much damage.</p>

<p>All of the wives that I mentioned have helped their husbands careers, even HRC! Yet, nobody acknowledged Hillary has an ivy league law grad, she was just someone with bad hair and thick ankles! Nobody really gives MO the credit she deserves as a Princeton grad, instead they harp on her 1 comment, where even Laura Bush said it was taken out of context. Teresa Heinz is a powerful person in her own right, but what peopl talked about was how she inherited the money, they never talked about what she was doing philanthropically with it. Cindy McCain is known as a Barbie doll, not for spending decades with Operation Smile. Nobody talked about Bill and everything he did for our country, or how he was involved with the tsunami, instead they talked about his blow ups!</p>

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<p>Since you know what my name means…lets make sure the whole side of the story is out…that occurred in a fight when I called Bullet ANAL! We both broke out laughing and I absolutely LOVE MY NAME…I even have it on my license plate…Bullet told the DMV when they asked what it meant he told them it means beautiful. Believe it or not I was the perfect wife, I saw how my actions could either help or hurt, not just my husband, but our squadron and base, so I was the one who gave dinner parties, baked cookies, volunteered whenever they asked or when nobody stepped up, showed up at the hospital for newborn babies, helped wives move-in and spent more hours holding hands of fearful wives when jets went down or off to war than I care to ever remember. Bullet has never been passed over for a promotion! I am proud of the military, more importantly I am proud of the spouses and the children of military members, they have moved, cried, said hello and goodby to people they love more than the average person will do in their lifetime. They are all the unsung heroes to me!</p>

<p>pmrlcomm, why do you repeatedly post comments directed to people you agree with congratulating yourself on your superior objectivity and denigrating those who disagree with you, accusing them of being unreasonable, driven by emotion, unable to address issues rationally, etc? Are you so insecure in the force of your reasoning that you need to attack the personalities of the “them” that you disagree with? Maybe it makes you feel good to post those comments, but it just makes you look small from here. You might consider refraining from the ad hominem attacks on “them” in the future.</p>

<p>I call it how I see it. Some on here do nothing but attack. If someone who disagrees with them makes a valid point they just move on to their next point of attack, never acknowleding the valid point. I do try to remain as objective as possible. I may disagree with someone but I respect their right to a different point of view and will occassionaly agree with them on something. It’s not a my way or the highway.</p>

<h1>30. Look in the mirror! …lol</h1>

<p>ilsa, I thought you were talking to me! I looked in the mirror and saw someone with frizzy hair who could stand to lose a few pounds. Now, I’m really depressed. For anyone interested, our Bake for Barak sale went well yesterday. Not one of my red state neighbors threw even a single rotten tomato at me. …</p>

<p>I would hope not. That’s usually reserved for the left wingers towards the right… :)</p>

<p>Congrats…not about how the sale went, but the thought that you might give faith to your red state neighbors for not throwing tomatoes!</p>

<p>Not me! Looked in the mirror this morning and thought I looked pretty hot …for an old lady!</p>

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<p>My red-state neighbors can be pretty decent folks. Now if I could just get them to walk the path of righteousness with me! I sense that pmrlcomm and ilsa are heading that way … right? ;)</p>

<p>Um…yeah. I think your liberal radar is a little off when it comes to us. You just don’t want to admit you secretly like us and admire us…</p>

<p>I do like you guys! You’re just a bit mis-directed, but I’m working on that!</p>

<p>I’m sure you are. Given you are surrounded by conservatives I think we have the better chance of converting you…</p>