@marvin100 - It also seem readily apparent from the OP’s initial post and responses that she is targeting small to mid-sized Liberal Arts colleges for her daughter. Williams is perennially in the top 3 of classic LA’s, along with Amherst and Swarthmore. Schools such as Skidmore and Smith certainly fall into this category as well. VCU is totally antithetical. Even when the OP goes a bit larger it is to super-elite schools such as Yale. Cannot imagine that VCU is a serious consideration in this case.