are we quoting rankings or not ? it gets a bit strange when some stats are ok to post and other stats get a constant bombardment of negativity . Fact is VCUARTS along with UCLA moved up to #2 and graduate is indeed very relevant as its the same instructors in many circumstances. I do however think it wholly inappropriate to quote a ranking as has been done so often and yet be negative of a counter ranking from a reputable source. Further as noted specific programs can and often are much more esteemed than some of the universities that house them. Everyone is entitled to disagree but really lets try to be consistent, oh and the poster listed incorrectly , VCUARTS ranked in 6 of 11 cats not 5
of 10.