Thanks, all. Some good ideas/comments here. I’ve tried Duolingo for Spanish and French and Great Courses French but did not have much luck with either. Though I didn’t try the paid version of version of Duo—not sure how much better it is. ChatGPT is interesting. I will play around with it and see what it can do. And once I have some experience will check out some videos/podcasts
I do want to learn vs feel like I need to. My BIL is Italian and is fluent so I’ll have someone to practice with.