Refining the list -and looking for some mid-sized schools to add [3.85 GPA, <$30k, possibly biology or communication disorders / speech language pathology]

Ok. No to South. What about McDaniel in MD? Dd’s friend (with higher stats) has almost full ride. Studied one semester in Madrid and going for a next one to Budapest…My child is seriously jealous :upside_down_face:.

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Did you look into Binghamton?

If she is still considering speech language pathology, she might want to make sure that she will be able to take the required courses for those applying to masters programs in this field.

Is your daughter a U.S. citizen…or are you talking about continuing studies in Canada.

I have to ask…you have mentioned your opinions about a lot of these college campuses. You said you visited Miami…did she? I hope your daughter gets to weigh in on the feel of these college campuses. For example, we know students who attended Geneseo and loved it.

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I have a kid at Cuse. Excellent school however I don’t think it fits the criteria of vibe you are looking for. Very heavy into sports and Greek life.

For others to consider, St. Louis University or Creighton. Jesuit colleges in general sound like a good fit.

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I’m an alum.

Unless you have need - no shot. Decent size. Heavy Greek. Lots of wealth. Beautiful school.

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Mount Allison is in a very small town, but is not all that far from Moncton. We actually stayed in Moncton on our first visit to Mount Allison. It is a nice small city. It is something like a 30 or 35 minute drive from Mount Allison to Moncton.

Acadia is also in a small town, although I think that Wolfville (where Acadia is) might be not quite as small as Sackville (where Mount Allison is). Acadia University is about an hour from Halifax. Edit: Apparently Wolfville is in fact a tiny bit smaller than Sackville, and both are small but attractive towns.

I do not know much about King’s College. My vague recollection, which might be way off, is that you take a year of two at King’s College and then end up at Dalhousie. To me this has the apparent advantage that you start off in a small school, but in the end have the wider range of potential majors available at a larger (but not huge) university. I am not sure why, but we did not look into this when we were considering schools. I would not trust my vague recollection in this case.

If she wanted to continue in Canada, my understanding is that your daughter would still be an international student. My daughter after graduating from university in Canada got a job in the US, and then started a PhD program in the US. She however has dual citizenship so she is a citizen regardless of which of these two countries she lives or studies in. As far as I can tell the main consequences of attending university in Canada was that US companies do not recruit at small not-well-known Canadian universities, and she got to say “I am a US citizen” multiple times when asked about her status during job interviews. She still seemed to do well in terms of looking for a job in the US and getting multiple offers.

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I do not think Syracuse will come in at your price point. It’s a beautiful school with a lot of wealth and Greek life, as noted.

I would look at SUNY New Paltz. I agree that if she wants to go to grad school for speech pathology or audiology she should try to complete the prerequisites.

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Mercyhurst might fit the bill. Also on the western PA list could be Gannon, Slippery Rock and Westminster.

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You can ask K if they stack or maybe they have a full scholarship although TO can put you at a disadvantage - anywhere with merit. Depends how ‘needy’ they are for bodies.

Fair question on Geneseo and New Paltz. I’d visit and ask or get linked with a student ambassador and ask.

It’s the UCI issue - do so many go home on weekends ?

The class is overwhelmingly in state and white - is that a bother ? At regional schools, which will be the types that can meet cost, it will often be the case. Millersville is another to check out (in Pa).

Because of Geneseo’s location, I would think it’s less suit case-y and over half live on campus - which for a four year school is a lot - but that’s simply a hypothesis.

You’d have to dig deeper - New Paltz is closer to NY’s population so I could see it being more suit case-y but again it’s just a guess.

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SUNY Geneseo is a great school but they eliminated their communication disorders major years ago, should she decide to go that route.

The students I know at New Paltz do not come home weekends and do not view it as a suitcase school…but it is always smart to do your research. Another one to look at is SUNY Fredonia

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She’s retaking the ACT but she’d have to improve by a few points to be competitive so I looked for schools where TO or test blind was available. I’d rather she spend time on academics, research and work.
As far as need - we qualify for need at wealthier, private schools but not state schools. We have need at schools that use CSS rather than FAFSA so that’s why there are very few public schools on list except our home state.

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Have you looked at UVA and UNC ? Not your area but they are the two publics to meet need. Might be worth running the NPCs for fun.

But TO will be a hindrance.

One into student got a $19k cost at Rollins - great school but in Florida - but has money and likely needing butts in seat. You have some of those - Beloit, K. Those are the types you need to find. I know @momsearcheng says you can get to $30k at Rhodes but it’s Memphis.

So you may have to make trade offs.

If a Geneseo works, then great, but is high majority white with near zero geographic diversity what you seek vs a school in a ‘left’ city that will draw nationally ?

Just something to think about.

I would take a look at Clark University. They offer a range of merit scholarships and may have additional financial aid available. Worth noting they offer a tuition free Masters program and their institutional aid is available for Study Abroad and that is not the case at all schools. Pulling for Mount Holyoke as well since my D23 attends. Good luck with the search.

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Since her major is sorta undecided, take a look at Goucher. They will likely give her $. They have had some financial struggles but it’s a great little school to consider.

Bucknell was a school that seemed like an odd addition, but it sounds as though it’s off.

College of Wooster was one I was thinking about, and it’s already been mentioned several times.

Has she considered Truman State? Missouri’s public liberal arts college really punches above its weight. And looking at its scholarship chart, I suspect her test score (combined with her GPA) will get her $9 or $10k off the direct-billed price bringing the total price to about $22k, so another guaranteed option. It offers majors in communication disorders and a range of STEM majors. It has about 3300 undergrads with 66.7% of classes having fewer than 20 students, 31.9% between 20-49, and 1.4% with 50+.

Another option might be Augustana College (IL). There are about 2400 undergrads and 65.6% of classes have fewer than 20 students, 34.4% have between 20-49, and there are no classes with 50+. Again, there’s a range of majors including communication disorders.

Two Jesuits that seem like they’d have potential are Marquette and Loyola Maryland, the latter of which is a CSS school. Loyola Maryland is part of the Baltimore Collegetown consortium which allows students to take classes at other area schools like Goucher and Johns Hopkins. Also, has she checked out Ithaca? All three of those seem as though they might be a fit and all offer majors in communication disorders, in addition to various STEM fields.

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I’m late responding to this and there have been many more posts so hopefully this is still relevant. (Yesterday was kiddo’s last day home so I was spending time with her as much as possible. :heart:)

We found Greek life at W&L to be accessible to the majority of kids interested in participating. Lexington is a small rural community so much of social life has historically been provided by Greek organizations. The sorority recruitment process is much more casual and welcoming than at the SEC I attended (and was in a sorority). My D would not have participated in Greek life at my alma mater! Rush is at the start of winter semester so a student has the fall to acclimate to college life and get to know others; no one is expected to buy a new wardrobe for recruitment; the first day of recruitment all girls are given a tee to wear with jeans; etc. while there is no guarantee one gets into their sorority of choice, all girls will get a bid if they choose to participate until the end of recruitment. Of course, some choose to drop out if their first choice doesn’t select them, and that is fine too.

There are ample social options outside the Greek system. My D has friends who are independents and there is no stigma. There are clubs that hold regular events as alternatives to Greek parties. Some of my D’s favorites are Friday Underground (FUDG), which is a coffee/tea house that hosts live performances and activities every Friday and the Baile formal hosted by the Latin student organization. Additionally, other than a few formal events, fraternity parties are open to all students (male and female). So if a kid just wants to experience some fraternity social events without the dues/philanthropy/responsibilities of membership, no problem. There are many events that do not involve alcohol, although I expect most night events will have a bar so one should be prepared for that.

My D21 participates in Greek life at W&L and has been on the Panhellenic Exec Council. She also participates in many activities outside of Greek life and her social circle is a mix. She’s a chem major (premed), has studied abroad three times, has several campus executive leadership roles (particularly in service, peer leadership and health-related groups), is active in the Outdoor Club (hiking, paddling sports, skydiving, scuba, climbing) and has loved her time in Lexington. She’s found lifetime friends as well as professional/networking connections. It was a good choice for her. I’m happy to answer any questions.

@cinnamon1212 Did I miss anything relevant to this OP?

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As stated my daughter went to Beloit and they give great merit for her stats. We loved the school. Great professors. BTW - my daughter is now older but just started her Masters in speech Pathology in Portland Oregon and loves it.

For speech pathology speak with @thumper1

Lots of resources on here.

You can PM me if you would like to.

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Nope! Excellent job, as always.

I agree with everything @DramaMama2021 wrote. One of my son’s best friends is not in a fraternity and it doesn’t really make a difference. So much so that he’s in a fraternity shared off campus house because he is such good friends with the brothers.

PS though – I suspect someone who loves Vassar might not like W&L, and vice versa. Their vibe is just very different. That said you can wait to see what your choices are, visit, and decide then.

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We are planning visits!

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We looked at schools with SLP undergrad programs in NJ and PA -TCNJ, Kean, Scranton, La Salle, Stockton, Bloomsburg. Montclair has a minor.

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