<p>I’m not going to be in the country in July, will I be able to register for the courses online? Otherwise, I will probably miss the deadline!</p>
<p>You can register online</p>
<p>starbucksguy - If you’re getting 5s on APs, you should take Econ 55 (I was in FOCUS so this is what I will be taking as well). The professor’s name is Timmins, and apparently, he teaches much of the material at a higher level than you would expect or has been expected in the past. This makes 55 a challenge, but it also makes the calc-based Econ 105 and 110 less difficult.</p>
<p>Good idea to start your foreign language - Duke has a wealth of different language programs and almost all of them are very strong. I would highly encourage you to perhaps try a new language if you are even slight interested. Off the top of my head, I know you can take Russian, Chinese, Turkish, Wolof, Latin, Hindi, Greek, Portuguese, Japanese, Korean, Arabic, Persian, Spanish, French, German, and Italian.</p>
<p>I’m currently in Chinese, and the department is outstanding. I’ve also heard extremely positive things about the Russian department. Spanish is supposedly not so good, but it depends on your teacher. French is pretty decent from what I’ve heard.</p>
<p>As far as your fourth class, take whatever you are interested in. Try something new. If all your classes will be social sciences, then take natural science or arts/lit classes. Next semester, I’m taking a English seminar entitled “Reading Poetry Outloud” (ENG 173S) with this supposedly unbelievable professor (Gopen). Every single person I’ve talked to who has had him has told me to take his classs. I’m also taking BAA 147 “Bodies of Evidence” - the class is about forensics/CSI stuff and is taught by Prof. Churchill, who is supposedly a very interesting lecturer, and the class is supposed to be pretty easy.</p>
<p>Just to make sure that you know, they have changed Econs 51 and 55 for the next semester. Econ 51 is now the old 51 combined with 55 and is called the principles of economics. 55 now requires math (I think 32). Also, I do not think that they will allow students to use AP credit to place out of 51, but you’ll want to double check this on the website.</p>
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<p>I don’t see how anyone could really know this, considering no one has taken both Timmins 55D and 105/110 yet. 
I’ll let you know if it’s true after summer term 1 ends. ;)</p>
<p>I was under the impression that 51 was changing this fall and 55 in the spring. I checked ACES and that seems to be the case because 51 has both micro and macro (last semester it was all macro) and 55 appears to be just micro like last semester. You’ll have to check to see if AP will still allow you to place into 55.</p>
<p>From what my friends who took 55 have said, apparently Timmins pulls lots of math formulas from upper level econ classes. No one knows for sure if this will help in the upper level classes but my friends thought it would, which makes sense but maybe it won’t help at all.</p>
<p>If you’re doing pre-med, what math classes do you have to take? Can you just take math 25?</p>
<p>How can I find out what registering window I’m in?</p>
<p>sweetsasami - You can take any class up to the highest you place into. </p>
<p>Phellax - If you have your NetID, log into ACES, go to registration, and it will say when your next window opens. </p>
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<p>All he did was flash a few formulas on the screen during his powerpoints. We never went over the underlying math, and never even once saw anything close to a mathematical representation of constrained optimization, which is huge in 105. He also talked about some concepts that usually only come up in 105, but again these never showed up on problem sets or tests (not that he told us as much ahead of time…)</p>
<p>Honestly, comparing his exams to past years, I don’t see any significant difference in difficulty. They all had tricky questions. I think what made Timmins hard is that he often went off into tangents about stuff we didn’t need to know (e.g. the 105 stuff) and thus made everything harder to follow, especially in an 8:30 lecture. Like I said, I can tell you if his class helps or not by the time the first summer sessions is over…I even saved my notes. But I will say that many, including those who had Timmins, had equally glazed-over looks in their eyes during the first 105 lecture today. :p</p>
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As a pre-med, you’ll need a strong calc background for your physics courses (Physics 53L and 54L) taken later. This means you should take Math 25L & 26L, 31L & 32L, or 41. Keep in mind that C2K requires 2 Quantitative courses, which can include math.</p>
<p>I believe pre-meds usually are expected to go through Math 32, which means that you finish elementary calculus.</p>
<p>From <a href=“http://www.aas.duke.edu/trinity/prehealth/prepare/math.html[/url]”>http://www.aas.duke.edu/trinity/prehealth/prepare/math.html</a>
However, the required Physics classes do require either MTH 25/26 or MTH 31/32 (or equivalent AP…or MTH 41).</p>
<p>Can you take calc at another U over the summer, and not have to take it at Duke?</p>
<p>What premed requirement course is recommended first semester? Should I take math 103 along with chem 23L or bio 26L? Thanks</p>
<p>Calc over the summer yes - but you have to make sure that Duke will accept the credit. Also note there are restrictions on how many transfer credits may be applied towards graduation.</p>
<p>Also, for pre-med requirement courses - I defer in pretty much all ways to Duke HPAC and Dean Kay Singer. The web site she has is pretty extensive for all things pre-med, and her track record rocks. Are you an engineer? 'cause if not, MTH 103 is certainly not explicitly required for pre-meds.</p>
<p>I have a question too.</p>
<p>I plan on majoring in biochemistry, and I’m not sure of which calc and chem class to take. I took both AP classes in high school, but I’m not interested in recieving credit in either of those courses (took Calc BC fyi). Especially since the chem course was taken junior year.</p>
<p>Which calc and chem course would you most recommend? Thanks for any help.</p>
<p>I would definitely take chem 23. I took chem 21 and 22 and barely went to class because the material was so drawn out. I feel that I could have taken 23 and done well, and I never even took AP chem, and I took honors chemistry as a sophomore. For math, I am taking the equivalent of 103 this summer (it actually starts this Monday). I took the BC test as well, and haven’t taken math since, so we’ll see how it goes. Having said that, I have friends who took multi-variable calc in high school and still took 103 at Duke, and they said that 103 was very difficult. I think that any math class, regardless of what AP credit one has, will be difficult. So, it’s really up to you and how comfortable you feel with the math you’ve learned.</p>
<p>Can you take Chem 23 without any AP chem credit? I took IB standard level chem this year but not the AP exam so I won’t get any credit for the class.</p>
<p>i want to say yes, but i am not sure… although then i think you might be missing a credit of chemistry and will have to fulfill it by taking orgo</p>
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<p>I’m not really sure what dalaboy means by this, and he may be referring to engineering (which I know NOTHING about). But if you’re taking chem because you’re pre-med, you need to take Orgo anyway. This doesn’t count for one of the genchem requirements. Whether you have or don’t have AP chem credit doesn’t matter, because most pre-meds who take Chem 23 don’t use the AP chem credit to fulfill pre-med requirements (as not all med schools accept it) and take Biochem later on. But I don’t think any of this matters anyway because I’m almost 100% positive that you can’t take Chem 23 without AP credit.</p>