<p>People throw around the term need blind and often it means different things at different schools especially where international students are concerned. What you don’t get in need blind admissions is an admissions officer saying yes then a financial aid officer saying no as insinuated above. You may very well get an admit and then insufficient aid because your admission was blind to your need and either you did not qualify, did not receive preferential packaging, etc. </p>
<p>Thankyou @shpgirl I’ll check that out then. </p>
<p>And to the rest, look guys, this past week has been stressful and I was wrong to take out my frustrations here. I’m sorry to have hurt some of you and I only ask that the current discussion ends and we turn to more fruitful talk.</p>
<p>@jym626 The top engineering colleges in India are very cheap for foreigners (approx $7K per year). Hence, they do not offer FA (not to either students either). </p>
<p>However, people earning close to the poverty line can avail of subsidized fees.</p>
<p>@himan growing up quicker than I thought! :)</p>
<p>I think though that this discussion on the value that having international students, some of whom are admittedly brighter than native Americans (no, not Native-Americans) has on the US educational system. Clearly, we strive to have some guests here wehterh it be for a full 4 year stint or just an exchange semester, but how far should we go to fund these students? And on the other hand, since most international students are paying the full sticker price and then some, how many should we admit since they are essentially subsidizing the education of the others.</p>
<p>To me, it seems like the logical next discussion of the In-State vs. Out of State public school discussion. By admitting more OOS students, the in-staters pay less, but doesn’t the educational system of the state exist for the primary purpose of educating those in state students? At which point is the ideal balance achieved of educating the desired number of in state students at a cost that is lowered by the presence of those out of state?</p>
<p>I think it is indeed a very fruitful discussion, albeit a bit off topic from the OP.</p>
<p>@himanshusahay, I know you posted many things earlier in this thread when you were upset. Many have already pointed out that this condescending attitude will get you nowhere so I am glad to see you have calmed down and hopefully will embrace the school that has accepted you, as well as your community/host country and let go of this claim to be superior. I am an Asian parent, brought up in several education systems - Europe, US, Canada and Latin America so I have experienced the school systems and lived in many places. I do agree with you that the education system (in general high school) is not as challenging as abroad but that has NOTHING to do with race. Sure Asian kids work harder but I don’t agree that that makes the race smarter.</p>
<p>Please be careful with what you post online. It was not difficult to find your blogs, social media accounts, identity on the internet so I would be careful what you post online, especially if you are upset. Congrats for being accepted to a great school.</p>
<p>I don’t beleive that’s true. Not necessarily brighter. Do they know more? Yes, but that’s a proccess of their schooling.</p>
<p>I studied abroad this summer in China, and the different ways we approach our high-school experiences reflect in our culture. American students, while not knowing as ‘much,’ are far more matured in terms of socialization. I found many Chinese students smarter than me concretely, but they don’t have the exposure to leadership opportunities and extracurriculars-- the things that develop a person’s identity-- that we do in the states.</p>
<p>If the generalization is a racial one, I can say that it is absolutely not true. High-acheiving Asian students are driven mostly by parents and culture-- there’s a culture of academic drive that’s cultivated in the home. However, I have many, many friends (and a younger sibling) who aren’t driven that way naturally. They’re bright, normal kids, but they’re not smart by ‘Asian’ standards-- and the kind of rhetoric and stereotypes used to describe them is not flattering in the least.</p>
<p>Well, best of luck to the OP at UPitt, and himanshusasay at WPI! Those are both excellent schools and I am sure you will enjoy your experiences there. :)</p>
<p>@himan, lucky for you that you learned to appreciate the virtues of discretion & humility anonymously on a internet bulletin board, rather than in the flesh in the host country.</p>
<p>Sincere congratulations & good luck at WPI.</p>
<p>@gmtplus7 Once again, I am sorry for my behavior and I do realize my grave mistake. I will make every effort to tone down and understand people better. I am sorry to have berated people, and I promise to stay in my boundaries in the future, something I really need to learn. A special apology also to @drexter, I am really sorry man. Thank you all for your strong comments, I needed that.</p>
<p>@jym626 It is not difficult for foreigners to get in. All you need is a respectable SAT II score in Math 2, Physics and Chemistry. Preferably above 2200 (M2+P+C) to get the branch that you want, although 2000+ is usually enough for admission. At the top 3 NITs though, you need 2300+.</p>
<p>Bear in mind, this does not include admission to IITs. IITs have a separate admissions process, via a competitive examination called the IITJEE. A quick google search will yield you more fruitful results.</p>
<p>To know more about applying to NITs and other Centrally Funded Universities in India, visit <a href=“http://www.dasanit.org%5B/url%5D”>www.dasanit.org</a> The application process has already begun.</p>
<p>Feel free to PM me if you need additional help.</p>
<p>Yes, it is. There’s a potential pool of 6.5 billion applicants for 10-12% of the class openings vs. 300 million potential applicants for the other 88-90% of class openings. In practical terms, you need to be among the top handful of candidates from your country or region that are applying to your desired schools. Acceptance rates of 3-5% at the most elite schools are not uncommon; on the other hand, there are quite a few stellar state flagship universities where the odds of getting in are much, much better: UIUC, UMichigan, UWisconsin, and the California universities, for example.</p>
Depends. If you need financial aid, it’s extremely competitive, with <10% acceptance rates at most of the full need schools. If you’re aiming for the very top schools, FA or not, it’s not even 10%, probably more like 5-8%. If you don’t need aid and aren’t aiming for the top schools, it’s probably a bit harder than for domestic students, but certainly not as competitive as if you needed aid. It also depends on your country and the school, though. Some schools select only a few from each country, so if your country has more applicants, it’s going to be more competitive.</p>
Thank you all for your strong comments, I needed that.</p>