<p>ouch i might withdraw that statement about athletes not being functionally useful as intelligent students.</p>
<p>people fail to realize that most athletes going to ivies are still smart lol. they can handle the work or else they wouldnt want to go there.</p>
<p>I HATE SUNDAYS! GRRRR! :mad:</p>
<p>heh, i think so too, shrek.<br>
however, one kid at my school told me this one story the other day which made me a little… frustrated.
He is a recruited wrestler for NYU, etc. However, w/o the wrestling, he got rejected at Georgia State University (which is absolutely pathetic, no essay required, no interview, just plain old judgement on SATs and GPA. easy to get into).
He had this friend who was a recruited athlete for Brown, apparently. The kid apparently was not so great academically, but got in anyway. He ended up hating it so much b/c he had to work so hard just to keep afloat that he transfered (or nearly dropped) out and finished at Kennesaw State University (which is a step above community college here in Georgia). Hmmm, kids like that get into Brown, but I would easily get rejected, while still actually being ABLE to do the work, and really, REALLY wanting to actually go there for the atmosphere of intelligence and academia that it promotes…</p>
<p>yah but in the top ivies (not to offend or dis brown in any way, i’m just referring to HYP), there are so many other top notch students applying that athletics makes less of an impact. i’m not saying it doesn’t help, don’t get me wrong on that one cause i will admit it helps. but at the same time all athletes have to go through the same admissions process as everyone else. </p>
<p>plus how can u be guaranteed that ur friend’s story is 100% true?</p>
<p>“plus how can u be guaranteed that ur friend’s story is 100% true?”
peg, the only ounce of happiness for my non-athletic recruiting case, is that this is not true. he is not that reliable of a source… but I don’t see why he would lie about this one. He is not the type that would make that up just to **** me off. who knows…</p>
<p>but anyway, I know that it is different at HYP, but basically, I am looking at rejections up here. I would love to go, but I don’t think I make the cut, basically. I think I would love to go to Brown, Dartmouth (I can’t believe I didn’t apply to these??? I just don’t really know how to play the Ivy game I guess… I really, really regret not applying to dartmouth. i think i would have loved it, and had much better chances…). They aren’t that far down from the top ivies… at least for what I am looking for.</p>
<p>Anyway, basically, i do agree with what you are saying. just adding on. still not fair that an athlete at brown has such a significant helper than some of us who don’t have that. although, as my friend explained so nicely to me… (said somewhat sarcastically with a tinge of resentfulness, maybe just from bitterness) “athletes work just as hard on their sport as you do on your academics. they are just as qualified for top schools, just in other areas” or osmething to that effect…</p>
<p>Sorry, I did not mean to detract from the achievements of athletes. Their achievements are the same as any other unique extracurricular: a strong hook. But athletes do not always have to deal with the same agony, because oftentimes they get “likely” letters from coaches or whatnot. This year we have a recruited track athlete attending Brown who got in between the time early applicants are notified and when regular admits are notified. He is an intelligent kid, but he really did not put as much effort into school as some others who were rejected did (i.e. not fully loading his schedule with weighted classes, and I know he had at least one C). I can understand people who are frustrated when an athlete gets in over them, but is it really any different when for instance a talented actor gets in over them? Last year, the graduating class’s four-time class president was deferred from Yale after loads of charity work, fully loaded schedule, club presidencies, and numerous Model UN and Model Congress awards. He even won the Discover scholarship, awarded to only two students each year, nationally. In the meantime, a recruited lacrosse player was accepted over him. (He was actually pretty smart, taking a fully loaded schedule as far as I could tell) Needless to say, the president was bitter. Luckily he got in regular action, after really pulling some strings, so he got over it. I don’t know what point i was trying to make with those stories, but yeah, athletes are a valuable part of college life.</p>
<p>To be recruited you have to be good. To be good takes time. That time reduces homework completion and studying. <–there’s where your lower grades came from, not because they aren’t just as smart</p>
<p>yah and also the stereotype isn’t always true. i’ve gotten all As thru high school, have some of the highest SAT scores, and am involved in a lot of school things. i also manage to always get my hw and other class assignments done, when others who have no other commitments often don’t finish (which i’ve never understood). this is along with diving which definitely takes a LOT of my time. driving to practice takes an hour alone. so there are always the stories, but often athletes are as smart and dedicated to academics as anyone else. u can think of it this way too. because someone is class president or does a lot of research, and that takes a lot of there time, does that make them valued any less academically? i’d hope not. athletics is just another commitment on the list of things to do.</p>
<p>diving…i remember in 1st grade my best friend pushed me off a diving board and i’ve had nightmares ever since.</p>
<p>Yeah, I applied to Harvard and Yale too. Waitlisted at Harvard, rejected at Yale after being deferred. Princeton was the last big one, but no mail on Saturday almost definitely means rejection or waitlist. It’s Dartmouth for me!!</p>
<p>hahah yah it can get scary sometimes, especially after u smack. almost everyone that i know that’s not a diver has some bad story about jumping off the “high board” during the summer or cliff jumping in hawaii, lol.</p>
<p>Hey Kelly87…don’t give up hope. After lots of threads and conferring, it was decided that the usps is totally random.<br>
- People in CA and other western states have already gotten rejection/waitlist letters.
- The USPS misleads people about the speed of priority and only 75% of the priority letters actually make it in two days.
- The postal service of each state differs in speed and quality.</p>
<p>Or am i merely deluding myself and delaying the inevitable?</p>
<p>Yeah, I know there still could be a package waiting for me. Although I’d prefer Princeton to Dartmouth (in the long run), I’ve spent about a week imagining myself at Dartmouth, and at this point I want the rejection/waitlist just so that it doesn’t interfere with the way I’ve imagined my next four years.</p>
<p>That said, I’d have given an arm and a leg to get into Princeton and nowhere else 10 days ago.</p>
<p>didn’t try harvard, but i was definitely deferred and then rejected at yale.</p>
<p>and i’m still without any notice from princeton, although i’m definitely expecting a rejection given that two of my best friends have already received their acceptance packets.</p>
<p>sigh, amherst or university of chicago for me.</p>
<p>good luck to everyone else still waiting.</p>