<p>actually, i have read in a news article that the legislature has been debating over this topic. it will either be completely abolished or be changed to a “top 5%” rule, probably not any time soon, but it’ll happen.</p>
<p>Ironically, the same legislators who ‘gave’ us the top 10% law are now trying to get rid of it. I doubt it will happen through the legislature though; our skanky politicians are tossing that hot potato around and nobody wants to get burned. If it goes, I bet it happens through the judicial system. The Supreme Court has already ruled that state universities are free to consider race, diversity and any other factor when making admissions decisions. There is no need for the top ten percent law in the Texas any more. As soon as UT fills with top ten percenters (76% of the 2006 freshman class…100% in 2-3 years?), there will be no more oos candidates admitted, or candidates from nonranking schools…then the lawsuits will fly.</p>
<p>UT itself is the one pushing for the change in legislature, and as we all know, it is ruining their reputation. trust me, they are just as ****ed about it as we are. i go to a highly competitive public school in texas, and got admitted to the summer class (im just outside the top 20%), but i know for a fact that i could go to the next school over and be in the top 5%. everyone in the top 10% wants to go to texas, and its getting out of hand. hopefully legislators will force an end to it</p>
<p>To clarify - does the 10% rule mean automatic admission for in-state residents? </p>
<p>Sublime - Do you know much about the lax team at UT?</p>
<p>Rage- yes it does.</p>
<p>sublimelaxer- i agree 100%. Students that go to really crappy schools and are top 10% but have SATs of like 1500 being admitted into UT really isn’t fair.</p>
<p>I think UT is pushing for a cap of 50% of each class to be filled with top ten percenters rather than getting rid of the law altogether. Imho all that will do is cause a race among the top ten percenters to get their apps in before the cap is met. Better to do away with the law and let admissions do their job…evaluate applicants individually and holistically.</p>
<p>And I know exactly what sublime is saying about inconsistent weighting and ranking. In the adjacent school district to ours, AP kids get 15 points added to their final midterm grade (85=100), Honors gets 10 (90=100). In our district, AP kids get zip, Honors kids get zip. Doesn’t make sense to have a top ten percent law and not require all schools to weight and rank the same…or at least remove the weighting function from the high schools altogether and assign it to the colleges.</p>
<p>Rage… i have several friends on the lax team, im friends with the coach Noah Fink, who is a great guy. ill be playing next year, i actually went and gave my commitment yesterday to noah, at the baylor game.
rumor has it that their program will be made into a full varsity, division 1 program within the next 2 or 3 years, which would really be amazing. i would play next year and the year after for a club team, and then all of a sudden find myself as a junior with playing experience and a repetoire with the program, and could possibly be a starter on a D1 team. it would be awesome.
i highly encourage you to come down and play if you got in, the club has so much fun. ive talked with people on the team, and talked about pledging, etc… and they say that there is no need to pledge if you are on the lacrosse team. it is a brotherhood of its own. after going to the game saturday, and talking with noah, the team made me feel welcome and really excited to be playing with them next year. IM me at SublimeLAXer if you want to talk more</p>
<p>I took all AP classes this year and I know people who took crappy classes and got all A’s. Really ****es me off that they are ahead in the GPA and ranking. All schools are different so 10percent has no meaning.</p>
<p>what in the HELL is going on…</p>
<p>pretty much, i’m infuriated</p>
<p>I cant believe i got rejected…</p>
<p>sat 1: math 780 verbal 460 writing 580
sat 2: math2c 800 physics 760 chem 710
toefl 267</p>
<p>hook: top few hundred mathematicians in the UK - invited to british math olympiad</p>
<p>Maybe the reason i got rejected is because i am an international. what do u guys think? Also, do i still have a chance at umich, since ive experienced 3 rejections in the past weekend</p>
<p>Yep, something is wrong here. I got accepted to NYU but got CAP’ed for UT. Other people are getting into schools like Rice, Emory, and USC but getting rejected from UT.</p>
<p>Texas legislators seriously need to re-work the admission policies. As many of you have said before, the top 10% law is only hurting the reputation of the school.</p>
<p>Very well put!! :D</p>
<p>You make my day. Now i dont feel so bad being rejected. lol</p>
<p>actually, it’s OK if other people are getting into emory and NYU… particularly since i applied to both</p>
<p>besides, i thought texans liked to think big…</p>
<p>I wonder if some of these rejections result from being out-of-state students. There is an even larger limit on the number of out-of-state students UT accepts. The competition for those spots is extremely competitive. Plus, this is just a guess and possibly a shallow one, but UT won the national football championship this year. Perhaps more out-of-state and in-state applicants took an interest in UT and the applicant pool increased as a result.</p>
<p>From the viewbook I got earlier this year, in 2005 about 18000 in state students applied and 10000 got in. For out of state 4800 applied and 1200 got in. Back in January, I thought Texas would be a safety for me (big state school) but apparently it is fairly competitive for out of staters (25% acceptance).</p>
<p>People say that UT doesn’t like the top 10% rule, but yet some of its policy are just as class-rank centric as the top 10% rule is.</p>
<p>Take McCombs for example, UT isn’t REQUIRED to admit students to McCombs just because they are in the top 10%, yet they continually practice a policy of letting only people in the top 5% get into McCombs and the top 2-4% into the Business Honors Program.</p>
<p>That is UT’s OWN ridiculous standard, not the state of Texas</p>
<p>I had a problem with my transcript and have to talk to an admissions officer today about my appeal (see other thread), but even then things aren’t looking hopeful this late in the game and considering that I’m in the top 10.7% (UW GPA = 3.72) I dunno how compelling I am… even with an old SAT of 1550 and new SAT of 2200.</p>
<p>I got into Stern Business School at NYU, I think it’s going to be frustrating if I get rejected from McCombs.</p>
<p>EDIT: I also go to Grapevine High School, ranked among the top 100 public high schools nationwide and top few in Texas… we also carry an extremely large number of National Merit Scholars and other high achievers… doesn’t help my class rank any.</p>
<p>I posted this elsewhere, but I’ll repeat it since it seems the appropriate place. </p>
<p>I spoke to UT Admissions a week ago. I was told they rec’d 27,000 applications for the fall of 2006…for approximately 9000 spots. I asked what percentage of the 9000 would be filled with instate auto-admits (top ten percenters) and I was told for Fall 2006, at least 75%. That means approximately 6750 spots were taken by auto-admits and that over 20,000 other applicants were competing for the remaining 2250 spots. These other applicants include non-top ten percenters, oos and applicants from non-ranking schools. </p>
<p>This should bring it home exactly how hard it is to get in to UT if you are not an in-state auto admit…and it is definitely NOT a reflection on the strength of your application or credentials if you apply from oos and are not admitted. </p>
<p>Personally, I do not think this bodes well for the longterm quality of our flagship universities. But hey, what are ya gonna do? The Texas House passed a resolution to get rid of the law in May of 2005, but Valley and rural Senators killed the bill in Senate committee. Never made it to the floor for a vote. Those are the people that need to hear your voice on this issue.</p>
<p>And Sogui is right. No law is forcing UT to use rank as the primary parameter when admitting applicants to the more competitive colleges. They could perform holistic evaluation if they wanted.</p>
<p>Idmom, thank you so much for that post. I have printed it out to give to my daughter (who got admitted from OOS) to cheer her up in case all the other news this week is bad.</p>
<p>csshsm - congratulations to your daughter! Yes…she should feel very good about her acceptance to UT from out of state…the odds are so difficult for oos applicants! (btw…my d has similar story…accepted oos at UNC-Chapel Hill…also tough odds.)</p>
<p>I don’t want to start a war on UT admissions with this post because my goal is to better understand the issues being raised here. Let me start by saying I don’t think I have an agenda on this issue: My son is a current Plan II student at UT. He came from a non-ranking school so I presume he could not have been an automatic admit.</p>
<p>I always understood that the top-10% (or proposed top-5%) rule was designed to admit a more diverse student body and particularly students from rural and underprivileged schools. If so, then it was understood that you might actually be admitting people who weren’t as qualified but that brought something else to the table. Also, as a state public school, UT has a duty to all its citizens including those from rural and underprivileged areas.</p>
<p>I don’t know whether the top-10% rule has accomplished its goals. Early on, I thought I read that students from underprivileged schools weren’t applying to UT in greater numbers and possibly even in less numbers, although I think that Texas A&M applications were up. I’ve also read that UT has had greater success in Hispanic recruitment recently, but I don’t know if the top-10% rule has been a factor in this. It may simply be too soon to tell, since it’s hard to extrapolate from a few years of data.</p>
<p>Does anyone have a link so I can learn more on this subject?</p>