Replace my cheese please?

I think it’s important to examine exactly why you believe you need to eat less cheese. If you think too many of your daily calories are from cheese and that’s affecting overall nutrition, then that’s a concern. If you are looking to lose weight and have identified cheese as an area to reduce overall calories, then that’s also valid.

However if you feel that you’re consuming too much saturated fat from cheese as a percentage of your daily intake, then that’s worth further examination. Do you believe saturated fat is increasing your cholesterol? There are not conclusive links on that. Do you believe saturated fat increases your risk of heart disease? Again not really conclusive links. Do you think saturated fat is just plain bad for you? Again the jury is out on that.

It may be worth discussing whether or not the cheese itself is ok, but ancillary concerns such as calories/fat/nutrition/balance can be addressed by adjusting other areas of your diet in order to accommodate the cheese.

https://news.osu.edu/news/2014/11/21/study-doubling-saturated-fat-in-the-diet-does-not-increase-saturated-fat-in-blood/
http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/03/17/290846811/dont-fear-the-fat-experts-question-saturated-fat-guidelines
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/02/12/275376259/the-full-fat-paradox-whole-milk-may-keep-us-lean

Thanks abasket. I have eliminated the morning cheese. Many years ago I tried this soy cheese instead, but the flavor was a little funky. I was hoping for something healthy and lower in fat that could be used that way, since I miss my simple toast and cheese breakfast.

I have increased the exercise, decreased the salt and cut back on the carbs in an attempt to lower cholesterol and to lose weight. The weight is very stubborn but I am trying.

The soups with parm, I can just leave it out. I use it when I make minestrone or escarole bean, the kind of hardy soups that are served as meals.

I don’t actually eat cheese with every meal, but if I look at my overall preference when deciding meals, I lean toward adding cheese. If I have a turkey sandwich for lunch, I can eliminate cheese and do now, but would love a piece of swiss with it. If I have a chef salad, I would love cheese to be part of it, a Greek salad and I want feta.

The substitute doesn’t have to be “cheese”, I am also interesting in interesting ingredients to replace the cheese. I like avocado in a salad or on a sandwich. I guess anything that adds another layer of flavor with less fat would be a good substitute.

Can I suggest something? for one thing, instead of land of lakes american, which is basically crap (try a sliced mild cheddar cheese from sargento or the like), try journaling for a week what you eat and especially note how much cheese you are eating. If you are eating small portions, then likely that is not a big culprit. As far as the doctor telling you to cut out fat, unless you are eating a ton of cheese each day, I wouldn’t be so concerned, doctors obsession about fat with cholesterol (assuming you aren’t eating a ton of cheese a day) is basically crap. Cholesterol is primarily a function of your liver and how much it produces…

As far as cutting out carbs, hopefully the doctor didn’t give you the all carbs are evil crap. While it is good to cut out simple carbs like sugar, and good to keep carbs as a ratio of your total calories, and to try and eat whole grains as much as possible. The other thing is to try and up your intake of good carbs, green vegetables and the like, besides being relative calorie low density the fiber also helps.

And i agree totally about exercise, the HDL/LDL ratio is affected by exercise, from what I have been told body weight strength training along with interval exercising can help. One thing to keep in mind is that the whole cholesterol thing is complicated, and much of what they claimed was true isn’t. For example, the HDL/lDL ratio is a standard measure, and one of the treatments for people with out of skew ratios was to take niacin, which drops the ldl and increases the HDL…however, long term studies that came out a couple of years ago indicate that while the HDL/LDL ratio looked better, taking niacin did nothing to lower the risk of heart disease in the studies, so it was treating the symptom,not the underlying cause.

Personally, I would suggest the answer to your issues are not cheese, but rather balancing out what you eat and also getting exercise, that will take care of the weight and also likely will improve your heart health, too. Not a doctor, just try to keep up with things like this, given I have heart disease on both sides of the family.

I’ve cut cheese out of my sandwiches and don’t miss it anymore. I found it often got lost in the other sandwich fixings and I wasn’t get much flavor bang for my caloric buck. I prefer to nibble my cheese separately now when I can savor it, like a good piece of chocolate.

For sandwich flavor, I like interesting mustards and am a big fan of those pickle stackers. A little pickled onion is great, too.

I like chickpeas in my salad which also brings up hummus as a cheese substitute.

Thanks musicprnt. The carb advice was regarding white flour, white potatoes and pasta. She suggested moving to whole grains and healthy carbs, lowering saturated fat intake, lowering sugar and increase exercise.

I like this idea doschicos

Sure. But they were not and have not been urged to make grains the majority of their diet, as the food pyramid did. In the Italian manner of eating, pasta is a small first course, not the whole meal.

The so-called “Mediterranean diet” includes grains, but it includes a lot more fresh green vegetables, fish and seafood, olive oil, legumes, and so on.

OP, If you want toast and cheese for breakfast, I’d suggest a slice of whole grain, comparatively low carb bread with a piece of thin-sliced Swiss melted on it. “American cheese”–aka processed cheese food–is indeed pretty much crap.

The only lower fat cheese I found edible is Jarlsberg Lite slices (it does taste like Swiss when melted or in sandwiches).

BunsenBurner, I believe I have seen that at Trader Joe’s. I’ll have to check out the label and see what that looks like. They also have some yogurt cheese but haven’t tried that yet either. I was hoping someone would have tried these type of products like you have and pass on the tips. Thanks.

@consolation:
Thanks, I thought that lactose would be a problem if someone was diabetic…guess not:)

I like the idea of subsituting for cheese, avocados have a unique texture, hummus could replace some of the places you use cheese (it is great on sandwiches or as a spread with vegetables).

As far as the cuisines where they eat grains, like the french and the Italians, keep in mind a couple of things. For one thing, the amount they eat in general is traditionally less than here, and they tend to eat things in a balance we don’t. Yes, the french eat bread, but they have a couple of small slices of it, they don’t eat a whole loaf. Likewise, while pasta is a staple in italy, along with bread, they don’t eat a 5 pound bowl of pasta. Risotto again was not eaten the way we did, and Polenta, a staple of the north (which was served as a mush, fried, and so forth) would be balanced out by other things, and they would eat a fraction of what a restaurant portion of that is.

The other thing you have to keep in mind is that those diets were eaten by people who were active, these were basically peasant diets, the people eating these diets were people who worked hard each day to keep going. My father was from southern Italy, and the things they ate were simple, they would eat things like bread dipped in olive oil that had had onions cooked in it, or they would eat past with a simple tomato sauce, they would have bread, of course, but again it wasn’t with butter…and they were physically active, walked all over. And the bread itself was simple, likely would be more whole grain, and it certainly wouldn’t contain the crap a lot of bread here contains, especially sugar.

The problem here is that the portion sizes are huge, and often what is being consumed as carbs is processed crap, with sugar in it, and it is out of balance with everything else. Though I am not going to disagree that our diets were thrown out of whack with the whole food pyramid based on grains and the like, and that carbs, especially sugar, creeped into so much of our diet, with no thanks to the medical profession (anyone remember doctors recommending the no fat food products out there, that were loaded with sugar…). It is one of the big problems with taking diets out of context without looking at the other factors. Put it this way, if you looked at the diets in eastern Europe where my wife came from, where the diet was laden with pork and root vegetables and they cooked with bacon grease and duck fat and the like, it would look like no one would live past 25…but that diet was from a time when people were doing heavy labor every day, and that makes a difference, eating the same kind of diet as a sedentary office worker is different than someone working on a farm.

My daughter cooks vegan often for friends, although not vegan herself. She will use nutritional yeast in things as a cheese substitute, like vegan mac and cheese, a topping for popcorn, etc. Might be worth experimenting with to see if you like it and can sub it for parmesan. There are recipes out there for vegan parm which is a blend of ground nuts and nutritional yeast.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/05/nutritional-yeast-dont-be-afraid_n_5628501.html

Also, try a sprinkle of fresh herbs in your soups.

Here is what the ingredient list looks like:

http://www.foodfacts.com/ci/nutritionfacts/milk-and-milk-products/jarlsberg-lite-reduced-fat-swiss-cheese-16-oz/49767

The slices we buy at Costco are 50 calories each (compared to the regular sliced Swiss at 80-90 calories per slice).

Completely agree with Consolation. Also, food serving sizes are much smaller in Europe.

Personally, I would stick with the cheese and cut out the bread in the sandwich and the bread for the toast. I like grains, but bread is a processed food. But, since you want to cut back on cheese, I found single serve avocado cups at Costco that doesn’t seem to have preservatives. I’ve never found cheese substitutes very good.

My mom took part in a dietary experiment in the 1980’s because she had very high cholesterol. She ate practically no fat at all and kept a food diary, and she really stuck to that diet. At the end of the year, there was no significant change in her cholesterol levels - at all! I have high cholesterol but a good ratio and my doctor was worried. I started drinking a glass of red wine at night and eating oatmeal once a day and my cholesterol dropped significantly. I wish I could say I was disciplined enough to keep eating like that , but I don’t like drinking wine and oatmeal is not a fave… Moral of that all is KEEP EATING CHEESE!

I have tried the alternative cheeses and agree that they are not very good. I love cheese with fruit, but also really enjoy the Parmesan crisps that you can either buy (at Costco) or make at home yourself. A smaller quantity of cheese, but you feel like you’re getting a lot more and the flavor is very concentrated. It would be difficult to eat too many of them. I eat cheese almost every day but try to treat it more as a condiment than a main component of a meal. Do you like goat cheese? Make some baked rounds to include in your salad. I find the more intense the flavor the less likely I am to eat too much - am satisfied much sooner!

Eating some fresh mozzerella right now on my 1/2 sandwich with tomatoes, basil, banana peppers and salami - the cheese is delicious but probably only about 15% of the entire sandwich - maybe. I buy the individual packs of fresh mozzerella at Costco - three little round balls in each package.

I have seen the parm crisps in the cracker area of Costco for awhile (packaged in a box). But this weekend I noticed Costco ones in the bakery area - large round discs of them. Which have you all tried??? I have made them before too.

We had the alternative cheese on pizza at Pieology the other day and both of us found it totally unpalatable. :((. H is lactose intolerant but said he just didn’t like the “fake cheese.”

Oh yes, feta a goat cheese are even worse for his GI system than cheese from cow’s milk, tho he agrees they are very tasty.

HIMom, there are hard cheeses that do not have lactose in them.

Since I need to eat a lot of calcium, I add cheese to lots of things. I also love cheese, and cheese makes some things that I don’t like taste better. If adding feta cheese means I enjoy my roasted asparagus more, then I don’t feel guilty eating the cheese.

As other people have said, sugar and processed foods cause a lot more problems than fat (see today’s New York Times). Having cheese and toast in the morning is much healthier than a bowl of cereal. I don’t know your health situation, but you could read up on why fats are good for you and sugars aren’t, and then present that to your doctor and ask again about switching to low fat foods.