Reporting student who included a major lie on an application?

<p>I don’t see how it can be called cheating to study released old AP exam questions. You can’t memorize an answer key, because how would you know <em>which</em> old exam you’d be tested on? I’d put the blame on teachers who are lazily just copying a single old exam. I’m sure they want to use some authentic questions, but surely many of those can be modified somehow, or at least drawn from a variety of old exams and other sources.</p>

<p>The student side of me says let it be , college is so competitive nowadays people tend to fudge things, but the rational side of me says report him because that is rude but then again maybe there is something with him?</p>

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<p>Having a disability is not likely going to help him get in anywhere. However, if he is seeking disability services, he will have to give paperwork to back up that he has this disability. </p>

<p>There are plenty of physical disabilities you cannot see. My husband has a heart defect and no one could tell. My son has a neural tube defect. Again, no one can tell. He also has muscle issues. No one can tell. Apparently, he recently shocked his dorm friends by disclosing that he also has high functioning autism. None of them had a clue and were shocked. Apparently, these kids thought they could tell someone with autism and had a lot of preconceived ideas about autism. Apparently, my son got so tired of them talking about it and being so wrong that he just laid it out there and told them about his diagnosis. None of them had a clue until he spoke up.</p>

<p>Forget reporting him. If he is lying, he will be caught when he cannot provide medical records. If he is telling the truth, then you will be the idiot for trying to tell on him.</p>

<p>Report him to the college, even if you have to do it anonymously, just express your doubts as to the existence of a disability. Mentioning his past bragging of cheating in class is optional. He couldn’t’ve cheated on his ACTs, right?</p>

<p>There is always another disabled person who needs that supplement more than this guy.</p>

<p>just leave it alone, theres not much you can do. let the college decide</p>

<p>I would mind my own business. Saying ‘everyone knows he/she cheats’ …sounds more like gossip and rumor mill chit-chat. You will end up looking silly if you report this person and your hunches and guesses turn out to be wrong.</p>

<p>This is completely ridiculous and I can’t believe that anyone is actually encouraging you to “report” the zero you know to the college.</p>

<p>First of all, this classmate could be lying about having received supplements. He could be bragging to unnerve you or to ■■■■■ you, and apparently it would be working.</p>

<p>You say it’s “common knowledge” that he doesn’t have this disability. What you actually mean is that it’s common speculation and gossip around your school that he doesn’t have the disability, likely based upon you and your classmates’ misconceptions about what it means to be disabled. In fact, you flat out said that you don’t know and he won’t tell you what he got the supplement for, so how can you know that he doesn’t have the disability if you don’t even know what “the disability” is?</p>

<p>Thirdly, he is under no obligation to validate his disability to you or to anyone else, so the fact that he won’t tell you about it or justify his disability to you doesn’t make him “suspicious.” It just makes you nosy. You say he “slyly” walks away, but that’s only your characterization of it. Perhaps “Don’t worry about it” with a smile and a laugh is his polite way of telling you that his personal medical history is none of your business. Maybe he’s embarrassed or private about his disability and this is his way of dealing with it, being coy or evasive instead of of direct. How the heck is “smiling and laughing” suspicious behavior?</p>

<p>Even if he does cheat on tests, that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a disability. And you also have no evidence that he’s cheated, because apparently he cheats all the time and yet has never been caught, even with (apparently) all of the teachers turned against him trying to catch him, like some sort of trickster god or something.</p>

<p>So basically you have</p>

<p>-the fact that he smiled and laughed when you requested that he explain his disability to you (so that you could determine whether or not he was - in your estimation - worthy of a UC disability supplement)</p>

<p>…and nothing else, really. What are you going to tell the UC? “Dear admissions office, there’s a student who applied to your school who says he has a disability, but me and my friends have all agreed that he doesn’t have this disability. When I asked my classmate to explain his disability to me he refused! I have therefore concluded that he is lying and I felt obligated to tell you, less he snatch away someone else’s seat.” Are you applying to the same UC? This will make you look quite bad.</p>

<p>Also, I think you are blowing this way out of proportion. The UC application gives candidates with disabilities an opportunity to explain their disabilities, possibly giving some context to their accomplishments and lives. Explaining that you had a major heart defect gives new meaning to the fact that you came in eighth in the regional cross-country competition (even though alone that may not be impressive), or explaining that you have dyscalculia and have always struggled with math gives new meaning to the fact that you managed to get a B- in AP calculus. But saying that you have a physical disability doesn’t automatically mean you’ll get into a UC, much less “steal a spot” away from somebody else.</p>

<p>His disability might be to have true morons for classmates.</p>

<p>Reporting your disability isn’t necessarily going to affect admissions one way or the other. I have a child with a documented disability (the kind that isn’t visible to the naked eye but has nevertheless been verified repeatedly). Students sometimes struggle with whether to release this information to universities in the application process–does the student want a random admissions committee who may not accept him/her to have this very personal information? It’s not a simple decision to decide whether to reveal the disability. I’m not sure what you think this student would even be gaining–an admissions edge (unlikely)? Services (which students frequently have to advocate for at the university level)?</p>

<p>I am unsure why studying old exams is a problem. That is what the teachers tell students to do here. They even give them copies. In fact, it is one of the things I do not like about the AP tests here, and TAKS, and STAAR, the student spend much of the year just studying and practicing on copies over past released tests. Even the study guides you purchase at the store have sample tests, some are even real former released tests. Kids are just learning to do the tests, not the subject matter.</p>

<p>I am 100% in agreement with Julliet’s reply. Good job Julliet.</p>

<p>Talk to your counselor about it. If there really is an issue, they’ll look into it. It’s not your responsibility to deal with it yourself. If he’s lying, he should absolutely be caught. If he’s not, then you don’t want to accuse him, because that would be bad for both of you. Good luck!</p>

<p>Before you do anything rash that may involve ruining the lives of people including yourself because false accusation can lead to some serious repercussions I would advise you to consider the following: Are you a doctor that specializes in disabilities? Do you have clear and sustainable evidence to your claims? Do you have any motives behind your accusations? Well obviously the answer to first two questions is heck no which is concluded both from your disorganized confused highly assumptive post and the fact that you’re still in high school, with regards to the third you have everything to gain and nothing to lose from your fellow student’s academic downfall. Therefore, before you make any quick remarks I would consider the fact that you have absolutely nothing to back your stuff up besides the fact that you don’t like how he ignores your personal questions of him and his laugh. Another point you should think of is that if no one has caught him and people have tried maybe he does have a disability after all?! And last you are just a simple kid that hasn’t even graduated high school so your credibility is equivalent to and excuse my language ****… no one will take you seriously and if your found out there is a chance you will be sued for defamation by the student’s family and your own college aspirations to be severely crushed. So, please stop trying to play Sherlock Holmes cause clearly your deductive ability is pretty lacking and keep your nose in your own buisness.</p>

<p>go for it they might reward you with a news articile about this so called lair lair pants on fire</p>

<p>leave him alone… i was falsely accused like this once and that person got in a lot of trouble…</p>

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That is the wrong way to look at this on several levels, but certainly one is that the OP said this was a UC, and therefore tax dollars go into the school. It is indeed money from everyone that pays taxes, which I imagine means his family and yours. And both of you directly if you have had summer jobs.</p>

<p>Also just to say, if you choose to ignore cheating then you are basically not only screwing yourself but every other legit student. I mean we could get into discussions about how meaningless it all becomes if everyone cheats (and you are basically saying that would be OK with you since you apparently feel no obligation to be part of regulating it), but even on a more direct basis it does hurt you, despite your not seeing it. You are essentially letting people walk all over you, it just doesn’t seem very direct. But it is.</p>

<p>I remember when I was in 6th grade a couple classmates of mine asking me if my dad was dead. I felt nervous and awkward and sort of giggled as I told them he was. The girls didn’t believe me. A couple days later I guess they realized when they asked someone else who said it was true.</p>

<p>Don’t assume he lied just because of a weird reaction. Things that people aren’t comfortable sharing can come out in weird ways.</p>

<p>Don’t. </p>

<p>My D is embarrassed about her disability. She has congenital heart problem … nothing to be embraced about, in my mind. However, she would never ever admit it to her classmates. It creates weird situations, because school administration, naturally, knows about the disability and makes accommodations for it. </p>

<p>I know that my D’s classmates suspect her of being dishonest. Because she misses lots of school days for doctors appointments and tests … but she never admits it to her classmates. She looks healthy and most folks thinks that she is a healthy person.</p>

<p>This is almost playing out like an episode of Curb your enthusiasm…</p>

<p>In the UC system, a “supplement” in the application review process has nothing to do with money or disability services and no documentation is required. The student has the opportunity to provide further clarification on whatever it is that a reader noted in his/her application that would merit further review. It absolutely can “get a student in” without any verification. I would advise you to talk to the head counselor at your school and have that person take it from there. As others have said, it may be a legit disability, or it may be a very dishonest way to gain admission to a university.</p>