Retail stores and new CDC mask updates

As of tomorrow, vaccines are required or proof of neg covid test within 48 or 72 hours prior to dine indoors & many other HI indoor activities.

We have never stopped indoor masking in our state. Our hospitals are maxed out and morgues are getting overly full too.

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i dont get what is happening in Hawaii, as it seems to be a high vaccine state, and one where the weather is conducive to being outdoors.

Too many visitors from the mainland.

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Agree too many visitors who bring covid with them and fake VAX cards. One infected person can get a lot of folks sick.

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“I dont get what is happening in Hawaii, as it seems to be a high vaccine state, and one where the weather is conducive to being outdoors.”

FWIW, Israel’s vaccination rate (mainly with Pfizer) is 5% higher than HI, plus they have started a program of third-shot boosters for people over 60. Yet they have seen a surge in cases (less so for hospitalizations and deaths). The viral load in Delta can blow past front-line immunological defenses, relegating the current vaccines to “damage control” duty.

I read pre-press medical research (e.g. stuff that hasn’t yet been properly scrutinized for things like sample bias). From a couple of unrelated studies, the odds do not look great for people over 60 (the dividing line in one study) when it comes to effects from even mild symptomatic cases: Call it 50/50 for long-covid or neurological (dementia-like) consequences. That seems ridiculously high, and I ignored the first study until along came the next.

Flawed studies or not, my personal game plan is clear: Wear a mask and try to distance from anyone who a) is breathing and b) has a different-looking weeding ring than mine. Indoors of course, and outdoors if I can’t position upwind (air just doesn’t spread out/mix over short distances as much as people seem to imagine it does). In other words, stay ahead of whatever next month’s headlines are going to be, rather than become part of them.

It seems to me that even with vaccine mandates and/or a negative Covid test that Covid can still be brought in to a country/island.

The only way for Covid to mostly stay out is to have vaccines, negative tests and quarantine. That is economically devastating for countries/states such as Hawaii.

It is quite a conundrum

That’s right: I was too cheap to buy her a wedding ring. She had to settle for a weeding ring.

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Brown79 - Your profile pic brings back a lot of memories. Wayland arch, right? I can’t tell you how many times I walked through that arch on the way to the Ratty.

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Thought you might enjoy the exiting the Ratty view.

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I’ve stopped paying attention to the government. The CDC has become an endless parade of contradictions reinforced by news outlets. Now, after getting vaccinated, I have to wear a mask until further notice because I’m somehow still transmitting it, like some kind of airborne radioactive contamination; which defeats the purpose of the vaccine that’s so highly effective. I just turned off the news. If you want to wear a mask, more power to you. I don’t wear one and I’ll never wear a mask again. Breathing natural air is good for the body and the soul.

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Ted? Ted Kaczynski? I thought you passed on? :laughing:

I would suggest avoiding plane travel then. Not only will those fines hurt the pocketbook, I hear the flight attendants are taking self-defense classes. :men_wrestling:

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Well, good luck with that attitude. Masks are really that painful for you? It’s hard for me to understand. I’m glad you don’t have to follow blackout rules as they did in London for four years. Talk about restrictive!

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Regarding the CDC and the “endless parade of contradictions reinforced by news outlets,” I’m reminded of what Agent K said in the movie Men In Black:

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While the CDC has had some problems, being gutted of top employees at or near the top of the list, science changes. It happens.

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Yes, airports are not good for the soul at the moment. I will stick to the interstate. Fortunately I have no where to fly to.

I hope we don’t see you on Youtube giving some teen a hard time at Starbucks or Arby’s because they require you to wear a mask.

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I’ve stopped paying attention to the government. The CDC has become an endless parade of contradictions reinforced by news outlets. Now, after getting vaccinated, I have to wear a mask until further notice because I’m somehow still transmitting it, like some kind of airborne radioactive contamination; which defeats the purpose of the vaccine that’s so highly effective. I just turned off the news. If you want to wear a mask, more power to you. I don’t wear one and I’ll never wear a mask again. Breathing natural air is good for the body and the soul.

Not. Cool.

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“Breathing natural air is good for the body and the soul.” —COVID DOESN’T CARE…

“I just turned off the news.” ----COVID DOESN’T CARE…

" I don’t wear one and I’ll never wear a mask again." Good for y ou, but…COVID DOESN’T CARE.

I’m sorry , but i am fed up with this kind of attitude.

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