Retaking 2300+ is stupid.

<p>^By your logic then, a 2100 is the same as a 2400 or a 2350, which it surely is not.</p>

<p>Just because CB neatly groups everything into groups of 100, does not mean everything within that group is essentially equal.</p>

<p>No, by my logic a 2100 is the same as 2199, a 2200 is the same as a 2299, a 2300 is the same as a 2400. Generally speaking, colleges separate applicants into piles of “like” students. For example, Georgetown explicitly states in their info session that students below 1400 (M & CR; they disregard W) will not be considered for admission. Thus a 1400 and 1500 will be placed into the same “pile.” From therein, Georgetown looks to other parts of the application to differentiate one student from the other. So, to the original question, there is absolutely no reason to retake a 2300.</p>

<p>The statistics you showed in your previous posts do not group the scores into groups of 100 out of 2400, they group them into groups of 100 for each individual section, thus making a 2100 equivalent to a 2400 by your original logic. But this is just arguing semantics now.</p>

<p>Gibby, your logic is flawed.</p>

<p>Simple logic:</p>

<p>The SAT sorts out people. The higher scores are less common than the lower ones, so at higher scores, you’re competing with less people at that range.</p>

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Patrick Ewing, Allen Iverson, Alonzo Mourning, Dikembe Mutombo, and quite a few other NBA players have me convinced otherwise. I highly doubt Georgetown has been able to establish a historic basketball team with such high and obstinate admissions standards. In other words, I’m calling BS.</p>

<p>Total BS! </p>

<p>From the CB website:

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<p>ok so i barely made 2300: 700 CR 800 M,W (12 E) </p>

<p>this was my first sat and i’m a junior, so i was wondering if i should retake or not. i just feel like i could do a little better on CR with more studying. I know math and cr are weighted more heavily than writing, so my thinking is that i’ll need >700 in cr to be truly competitive at hyps. also, i still have a lot of time to study and retake, but idk if it’s worth it to go through a 3+ hour long test for maybe 50 points. </p>

<p>will it look bad to retake and get lower scores than before? say, in math or writing?</p>

<p>“For example, Georgetown explicitly states in their info session that students below 1400 (M & CR; they disregard W) will not be considered for admission.”</p>

<p>I’ve been to a Georgetown information session, and information to the contrary was given.</p>

<p>^xiaojingteng</p>

<p>LOL ARE YOU ME
my full name is in your username and i’m a junior and had a similar score</p>

<p>retake 2280? jk im happy</p>

<p>^ Congratulations.</p>

<p>@notajingoist - lmao that just made my day haha. but no there’s this chinese singer with that name</p>

<p>I completely disagree that retaking a 2300 is useless. At the top 10, or even the top 20 schools in the nation, you are not sufficiently separately yourself from the rest with only a 2300. If you are receiving scores that are perfect or near-perfect in practice, why satisfy for something that doesn’t accurately represent your true potential? To not retake it would sacrifice what you are truly capable of accomplishing. If your goal is State U, 2300 will suffice; however, at HYPS, every ten points adds significantly to your chances of admission.</p>

<p>“If your goal is State U, 2300 will suffice”</p>

<p>Lol… suffice… nice word choice.</p>

<p>Here is the way my wacky mind sees scores:</p>

<p>CR: Get it as high as possible. It tends to not only be the most consistent score (which means colleges will trust it more) but also the most indicative of actual aptitude. Not saying that you have to get an 800 to maximize your chances at a top school, but the cut-off tier before CR score differences start to become truly irrelevant, I would say, is probably 770-780.</p>

<p>Math: Kind of works in the opposite way. Your score can, and will, change drastically on the misreading of a word in the instructions to a question. I don’t think you’ll be making good use of your time trying to boost your math score from a mid-700s, as long as you’re not applying to very math-heavy schools like Caltech and Wharton (and no, I would not include MIT because its admissions process seems to work very differently from the other two schools mentioned).</p>

<p>Writing: Who really knows? My guess is that schools still treat it like a subject test score. I would not be focused on this so much as either of the two other sections.</p>

<p>mifune, i really disagree here… the difference between a 2300 and a 2310 will not “significantly” increase your chances of admission… at all…</p>

<p>“however, at HYPS, every ten points adds significantly to your chances of admission.”</p>

<p>How lightly are you using the word “significantly?”</p>

<p>In some rare cases, ten points may make a difference; in most, it will not.</p>

<p>Many triple 800 scorers are rejected every year from HYPS, as admission to the top Ivy’s is not “numbers driven.” Scoring better than a 2300 will not necessarily increase your chances of admission, as other parts of the application are considered to be of equal importance, such as your transcript, teacher recs, and essay. Some might argue that with a 2300 SAT, your chances of admission to HYPS might be increased by writing a killer essay that took you months to craft.</p>

<p>mifune said: “At the top 10, or even the top 20 schools in the nation, you are not sufficiently separately yourself from the rest with only a 2300.”</p>

<p>Some perspective, using data. In 2008 a total of 5,684 students out of about 1.5 million that took the SAT scored 2300 or better. That’s the top 0.38% </p>

<p>The College Board says that one’s SAT score is in a band, plus or minus about 30 points. Colleges know this.</p>

<p>Moving up to a 2310 in 2008 would have made you one of the top 4766, or the top 0.32%.</p>

<p>If these small increments are critical to one’s perception of admissions success at colleges, one might retake. That would assume that one’s other attributes are less important in admissions than a relatively small increase in SAT scores. </p>

<p>Kei</p>

<p>P.S. Only at CC would anyone label such a score “only” a 2300. Back in the real world a 2300 is superb!!!</p>