RICE VS OTHER T20

[Bill_Marsh]

@theloniusmonk

“College sports fans know Rice as they’ve won 10 bowl championships including the Orange Bowl, the Sugar Bowl, and 4 Cotton Bowls.”

This is such a misleading statement, those bowls were all in the 1940s and 50s. Very few college football fans know Rice after they left the Southwest Conference. And the Rice-Fresno State Hawaii Bowl had the lowest rating in the past 10 years. If Hawaii is not in the Hawaii Bowl, very few people, relatively speaking, watch it.

“By alumni achievements, Rice already is at the same level as the other (non-HYPSM) Ivies/equivalents.”

Another gross over-exaggeration, Rice does not have the accomplishments of Michigan or Northwestern, just to name two. Yes they’re older and bigger, and maybe that’s why they have more, but you can’t make some claim and not back it up.

Are you really saying that Rice is on the same tier as Michigan or Northwestern in journalism, media, sports, entertainment, business, government?

Maybe medicine, but UM’s healthcare systems is superb, one of the best in the world. Maybe Oil and Gas, but those are dominated by UT and A&M grads.

Take Pulitzer prizes which the OP brought up, Rice has one, NU has 38, Michigan 35. Only Harvard and Columbia have more. By your logic, Rice should be in the 30s right, since it’s journalism or writing program is the same tier of non HYPSM colleges? Well it’s not even close.

I take it you’re a Big Ten alum? LOL.

What do Pulitzer Prizes have to do with the quality on an unergrateate’s experience? I’ll take the small classes at Rice over the large lecture halls at Michigan any day of the week.

I also take it that you are not a sports fan, just a football fan. Rice won a national baseball championship in 2003. That’s not recent enough for you? I brought up the football bowl championships to show that they have a long and storied history with lots of tradition. Sure, their days of winning the Orange Bowl and the Sugar Biwl are over, but they remain competitive at their level as evidenced by their Hawaii Bowl championship in 2014, the Liberty Bowl in 2013, the Armed Forces Bowl in 2012, the Texas Bowl in 2008, and the New Orleas Bowl in 2006.

The issue here wasn’t about Rice’s excellence in football or any other sport but about whether anyone outside of Texas has ever heard of them. Anyone who follows the football bowl season obviously has heard of them. They also have an outstanding college baseball team which has not only won a national championship in the 21st century but has also won numerous college championships. These are facts and they’re not even arguable. So why are you arguing?