I take it you’re a Big Ten alum? LOL.
I tried to think of non-HYPSM schools with football programs and those two came up, maybe could have used Notre Dame or Vanderbilt as well.
“also take it that you are not a sports fan, just a football fan. Rice won a national baseball championship in 2003.”
Ok, Rice finished 122 in the Sears cup standings this past year, unfair to compare to Michigan, agree on that but NU finished 45th.
“What do Pulitzer Prizes have to do with the quality on an unergrateate’s experience?”
The OP brought it up, that’s why I used it as an example, you brought up the football argument when he or she didn’t even mention it.
“Anyone who follows the football bowl season obviously has heard of them. These are facts and they’re not even arguable. So why are you arguing?”
Bowl games are facts, but the statement anyone who follows obviously… is pure opinion. These are minor bowl games based on payout, and ratings, two more facts.
“It’s hard to compare numbers when you’re looking at schools of completely different sizes.”
I agree but it wasn’t me that said Rice was equivalent to non-HYPSM, based on alumni achievements, there should be some evidence of that, whether it’s nobels, pulitzers, emmy’s, or super bowl winning quarterbacks.
“Rice is more comparable to Dartmouth and Brown”
I recall reading a NYT article sometime back which theorized that yield and cross-admit percentages are the best measure of prestige at least among like schools, Rice is at 40%, the the other two at 60, all three use ED. I’m not a huge fan of using parchment data except to get a starting point, Rice wins the cross-admit vs Michigan, loses to Dartmouth, Brown, NU and Duke.