@theloniusmonk I think Rice is comparable to Brown and Dartmouth as well, but not in regards to prestige/which one is more reputable overall or which one students would choose. I think it’s comparable because out of all the T20, these three schools are really undergraduate focused (in addition to Princeton). Forbes ranks Rice #21 for best value, ahead of Brown (#33), Cornell (#43), Georgetown (#57) and JHU (#75). For undergraduate teaching, USNEWS ranks Brown is #3, Dartmouth #5, and Rice #8. Maybe as a whole all the other T20s are more prestigous/chosen more often, but for undergrads, Rice among Brown, Dartmouth and Pricneton lead the pack and that is undeniable.