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<p>Question for you rose experts: I just bought a ramblin red rose and right now it is in the original pot on my deck and looking stunning. Can I keep it like that all summer? When would I have to put it in the ground before winter (zone 4b)? Or can it winter in the garage?</p>
<p>Chicago is a little milder than the rest of the state.</p>
<p>The almighty hole: Dig it two feet wide and eighteen inches deep. Don’t skimp on this.</p>
<p>Some favorites: Can’t live without Fragrant Cloud, it wins all the fragrance awards for a reason. Next is original cherry red single Knock Out, not the later double, grow the original first…it laughs at blackspot. Queen Elizabeth, pink and lots of flowers on long cutting stems. Europeana, a great red floribunda and Sunspite a yellow one. Chicago Peace, prettier and darker than Peace. Antigua, a pink apricot blend with frilly petals, getting harder to find. Bonica, covered with smaller pink flowers all the time.</p>
<pre><code> Some to grow as annuals, so special: Color Magic, changes color, fun to watch…Just Joey, beautiful big frilly apricot…Abraham Darby, David Austin ‘English’ rose with great fruity fragrance like Pez candy.
Classics on my short list to try: Iceberg (and new Burgundy Iceberg) and Double Delight, bi color with great fragrance.
Winter protection on the first group: two shovelfuls of dirt, the day before or the day after Thanksgiving. Or after hard freese if you have unfrozen topsoil in the garage. New soil, not scrapped up from around the rose.
Check out the American Rose Society website. Come to a rose show and meet your neighbors to share experience.
Don’t reinvent the wheel, buy your plants bareroot. And reread what I said about the hole.
Go for it! Knock Out first.
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<p>I have to say that I love the single roses more than any others, and I want mostly yellows, whites, creams, blushes – I guess I am just a pale person. Fragrant would be especially nice. Any thoughts – I like the idea of starting with easy roses, so I am going tonight pick up the two yellow Knock Out rose bushes that have been calling my name. Wish me luck.</p>
<p>Thanks for starting this thread. If I had a sunnier yard, I would be heading to Jackson & Perkins on-line! And good luck.</p>
<p>SCU…</p>
<p>Double Delight has always been my absolute FAV. I usually have a couple of those bushes so that I have a lot of those blooms. But, I also adore Mr. Lincoln, Chrysler Imperial, and Royal Highness. I like Iceberg because it provides a lot of blooms to add to a vase…and it’s a true white rose.</p>
<p>*If you decide that you can have your own little toxic waste dump - like we did - I highly recommend the Bayer 3-1 fertilizer. Apply once a month, knock out fungus, bugs and fertilize.
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<p>Bayer 3-1 systemic is the best. When I first moved to the south, the Japanese beetles would eat all buds/blooms in July until Bayer came on the scene. </p>
<p>I now use a drip system… but in the past, I used a very low bubble spray in the mornings so that I didn’t cause mildew. The bubble sprays were like little shoots of water straight out like a little water pistols. </p>
<p>Be sure to learn the proper way to cut off roses. Go down to an “outward facing” 5 leaf or 7 leaf “leaflet” (not a 3 leaf leaflet), and cut at an angle - but not below that little thing that is showing where the leaflet meets the stem. That is a future stem that will grow future roses. </p>
<p>If I had a pic, I would post a link to what I’m talking about. :)</p>
<p>Nice images of how to prune in this article: [::</a> House and Garden Ltd ::](<a href=“http://www.housegarden.co.nz/plantingtips_roses.html]::”>http://www.housegarden.co.nz/plantingtips_roses.html)</p>
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Yes…the “cut too high” “too low” etc pics are perfect examples.</p>
<p>Now, imagine that where that little growth is where a 5 leaf or 7 leaf leaflet was right underneath.</p>
<p>And…since you want the new growth to grow “outward” (creating a “vase” shaped bush with air/space inside), you choose your leaflet on the “outside” of the bush.</p>
<p>Sheer Bliss, that’s a white with blush edges and good fragrance. It is from J & P. You might try Moonstone, I haven’t grown that yet but it’s reliable for others around here.</p>
<pre><code>I would like to hear about other good white roses. Around here, fragrant white roses attract “June bugs” Japanese beetles.
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<p>Adding to the Toxic Waste discussion, there is a Bayer product that you pour into the soil around the plant. The plant takes it up and it works systemically to control the beetles. It works.</p>
<p>OK, I just looked it up:
Bayer Advanced 12 Month Tree and Shrub Insect Control</p>
<p>Ah, the Sheer Bliss is beautiful – I will add it to the wish list. H won’t let me go to the Toxic side. The whole rest of the property, including his 2 acre garden is all organic and he would kill me if I messed up strawberry patch, or his lettuce, or his …</p>
<p>I am a rose novice but my aunt & uncle are judges for the American Rose Society. They give me roses & provide lots of advice.</p>
<p>Favorite rose: SunSprite (yellow; hardy; fragrant single bloom - survives despite my neglect).
Favorite miniature: Green Ice (green blooms turn white; hardy; survives my neglect).</p>
<p>Re June bugs: the Japanese beetles start out as grubs that eat the grass roots & destroy entire lawns (ahem, like mine). If you use ‘milky spore’ (organic, I think) or a pesticide intended for grubs, many times you can prevent the beetles.</p>
<p>Also - roses seem to enjoy coffee grounds & egg shells. I pick up used grounds at a nearby Starbucks. They are happy to give them away.</p>
<p>Yes, you can sprinkle some coffee grounds around your roses. I have asked and received big bags of coffee grounds from Starbucks…they go in the composter, not right on the roses.</p>
<p>Another thing they like is banana peels. Let the banana peels turn black before you put them under the roses. Just looks better.</p>
<p>I have a wonderful William Baffin climbing/rambling rose bush that flowers profusely (although just once a year) in zone 4-5 region despite benign neglect. It produces bright pink flowers. I would love to find similar rose bushes (climbing/rambling, cold-hardy, no-fuss) that produce yellow, white and/or red flowers. Any ideas?</p>
<p>What part of the country? Climbers need winter protection here in the midwest.</p>
<p>I am in zone 4b (-25 to -20 degrees F) and I do absolutely nothing to prepare/protect my huge William Baffin climbing/rambling rosebush for winter, and it blooms bigger and better every year. That’s the kind of rosebush I want in other colors. (It grows up a trellis.)</p>
<p>Our previous house had an rose garden when we bought it, about 20 plants. My favorites were “Peace” (original), “Sheer Bliss”, “Mister Lincoln”, “Electron”, and “John F. Kennedy”. I also pondering getting myself a “Rio Samba”.</p>
<p>OP, I’m not a great gardener but here’s what I learned: Roses are thirsty; when you water, water deeply. Good drainage is essential. They need a ton of direct sun – 8-10 hours a day at least. Faithful fertilizing and pest management will pay off dramatically. And if you don’t do that severe pruning for winter, the next season doesn’t go well.</p>
<p>At the new house, I haven’t gotten any roses. I prefer low-maintenance plants, and roses aren’t that. They are beautiful though.</p>
<p>I’ve started collecting old roses. Mamazilla’s mama is an old rose specialist who goes rose rustling with her cronies. She can snip a 12" branch from a rose and start 6 new roses from it. She won’t be bothered with hybrid teas because they are too much trouble. Old roses are survivors. Little trouble with black spot. I recommend that you look at The Antique Rose Emporium’s catalog. Also, David Austen Roses are new varieties that have the best qualities of old roses. It’s too late to order from them this year, but it’s worth waiting until next spring. Their catalog will make you drool. I ordered three roses from them this year. They came bare-root in late April. I planted them right away, and two have started to bloom already. good luck! Once you get started, you start dreaming about getting rid of the lawn and planting it all with roses!</p>
<p>cottonwood: thanks for the tip in #23 about the almighty hole. I just transplanted a rose from my aunt & followed your tip about the extra large hole. The rose is supposed to be “Julia Child” but it is red instead of yellow, so it might be mislabeled. But it’s still pretty.</p>
<p>Wow, Julia Child is another one I want to try.</p>
<p>I mentioned Abraham Darby, that is a David Austin rose.</p>
<p>That rose rustling sounds like fun. I haven’t got enough space for that yet. </p>
<p>At the end of our ARS show, we sell all the exhibited roses to the public. I have seen guys take the Fragrance Class winner (Fragrant Cloud, lipstick red) for bud stock. I like the idea. It’s illegal to sell roses propagated in this way…blah, blah, blah.</p>