<p>Another inexpensive option that will give him the ‘traditional’ college experience is the University of Wyoming.</p>
<p>OOS Tuition/Fees/Room/Board is only $21,500 per year. They do not offer scholarships/merit aid to transfer students but you might call and ask them if they can consider you son.</p>
<p>I think my position would be: “I’m willing to sacrifice to help you get the best education possible. But if what you’re after is the ‘college experience,’ I’m afraid you’re going to have to fund that on your own.”</p>
<p>And if he’s “bored,” I’d suggest he spend his time in the library, studying.</p>
<p>*I think my position would be: “I’m willing to sacrifice to help you get the best education possible. But if what you’re after is the ‘college experience,’ I’m afraid you’re going to have to fund that on your own.”</p>
<p>And if he’s “bored,” I’d suggest he spend his time in the library, studying. *</p>
<p>LOL…</p>
<p>Of course, if his definition of “full college experience” is just fun and games…</p>
<p>But, it may just mean that he wants a regular college experience of academics and extra -curriculars.</p>
<p>I think the problem may be that from the get-go, the student was mostly only looking at schools where he could play soccer and get some money to help make the school affordable. That probably eliminated a lot of schools from even being considered. It doesn’t sound like Linfield was chosen because it offered the best education possible. It sounds like it was chosen because of soccer, scholarships, and it was an attractive school with nice people on campus. </p>
<p>Sometimes when kids have a limiting parameter (like a sport or an uncommon major), they severely limit their choices and don’t look at any/many schools that don’t include that parameter. </p>
<p>I think once he was enrolled, he realized it was a very small school of 1700 kids (the size of a high school) and may just seem too high school-like. With only 1700 kids and less than half being OOS, there may be a lot of commuter/suitcase kids there. That wouldn’t leave many on campus on weekends. </p>
<p>If the student is miserable there and another alternative can be found for the same price, why not?</p>
<p>i’ll add another alabama school with reasonable oos costs…20-24K (tuition,dorm and food)</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.uab.edu%5B/url%5D”>www.uab.edu</a></p>
<p>tier 1 research university</p>
<p>urban campus 11k undergrads</p>
<p>very strong for sciences</p>
<p>has a soccer team</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.uabsports.com/sports/m-soccer/albr-m-soccer-body.html[/url]”>http://www.uabsports.com/sports/m-soccer/albr-m-soccer-body.html</a> </p>
<p><a href=“University of Alabama at Birmingham Athletics”>http://www.uabsports.com/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/111411aaa.html</a></p>
<p>in fact one of their players is from the book Outcasts United (which was the book for alot of universities last year)
[Soccer</a> player from Sudan, featured in book ?Outcasts United,? begins new chapter at UAB](<a href=“http://main.uab.edu/Sites/MediaRelations/articles/79653/]Soccer”>http://main.uab.edu/Sites/MediaRelations/articles/79653/)</p>
<p>afraid i dont know anything about if he would still qualify for any freshman scholarships.;.i would just give them a call</p>
<p>I know most of the California community colleges are very impacted, and kids are having a hard time getting classes, he might want to look at signing up there sooner rather than later. Friends of my kids have gone to Utah State and found it somehow cheaper than the UC’s.</p>
<p>At Linfield we were going to pay $28K/year (total). It is still beyond out budget but wanted him to get a good private school education and he thought he’d love it. Soccer played a huge role and that was a disaster at Linfield. He was told over and over to pick the school and not the soccer. </p>
<p>He’s figured out that he wants a bigger school with the “total college experience.” </p>
<p>Hopes to play club soccer if going to a D1 school.</p>
<p>You can play around here to find universities by size and out-of-state tuition:
[Largest</a> Colleges | College Stats.org](<a href=“http://collegestats.org/colleges/all/largest]Largest”>http://collegestats.org/colleges/all/largest)</p>
<p>Thank you for posting SDiegoMom- My son is a Calif.HS Jr. and is picking schools he is interested in applying to purely by soccer also. He is D3 material, but we know him well enough to know that D3 schools are too small for him; he is a big school type kid. We are also trying to get him to look at soccer clubs at D1 schools. I will be showing him your post so that at least maybe he will think about it some more. Best wishes with everything!</p>
<p>Has your son thought about just doing a CC for now. You might look at Santa Barbara City College which feeds into UCSB. They also have club teams that feed into the UCSB Div. 1 soccer team. We know a kid who started out on the club team at SBCC and then transferred to UCSB. He is a starter on the team now, but was not ready for that level of play his freshman year. Just something to look at- good luck. My college Jr. daughter started at a well respected but very small conservatory and hated it after one semester. She came home and went to our CC for 3 semesters and then transferred to a theater program at a large university, which is where we felt she would be happier to begin with! She loves it- that small atmosphere was just not for her!</p>
<p>Sorry he doesn’t like Linfield. As an Oregonian, I can see how it would be a huge change from San Diego to McMinnville. It is a gorgeous area, close to the beach, lots of wineries, but not exactly what a college freshmen wants to do!</p>
<p>Does he have any friends there, or was he going alone? Linfield is not that far away from Corvallis or Eugene, if he wants to enjoy the college football experience vicariously. although I can understand wanting to be part of it all the time.</p>
<p>UNM (University of New Mexico) does have a “good neighbor” tuition rate–but only for Colorado and some Texas counties. CA residents won’t get a break.</p>
<p>UNM does have the Amigo Scholarship for Transfers, though I’m not sure if your son would qualify since it requires a 3.25 GPA and meeting all the incoming freshman requirements if there is less a full year of credits.</p>
<p>[Transfer</a> Scholarships :: | The University of New Mexico](<a href=“http://scholarship.unm.edu/scholarships/transfer-scholarships.html]Transfer”>http://scholarship.unm.edu/scholarships/transfer-scholarships.html)</p>
<p>But…soccer here is superb! (Men are ranked #1 nationally and are favored to take the National Title. Again.)</p>
<p>He might consider New Mexico State in Las Cruces, NM</p>
<p>School is Division 1, has about 18,000 students and OOS costs are pretty reasonable ($18,000/year tuition & fees plus $6000 for room & board). NMSU does offer transfer scholarships for OOS.</p>
<p>[NMSU</a> Financial Aid and Scholarship Services: Scholarships](<a href=“Error 404 | New Mexico State University - BE BOLD. Shape the Future.”>Scholarships | New Mexico State University - BE BOLD. Shape the Future.)</p>
<p>(And the weather is equivalent to Tucson’s. Maybe a bit better.)</p>
<p>Thank you for the suggestions. This is very stressful on him and me. He now is thinking he will attend U. of AZ and take out loans for the difference.<br>
I don’t understand the WUE program as they list so many good public schools and don’t know which ones he would qualify for or not.
Very confusing when you don’t have the HS college counselor.</p>
<p>[WICHE</a> - Student Exchange Programs](<a href=“http://wue.wiche.edu/search_results.jsp?searchType=all]WICHE”>http://wue.wiche.edu/search_results.jsp?searchType=all)
click on the school you are interested in and it will give details. It also lists the schools that offer WUE to transfer students. Note that some schools in Oregon don’t offer WUE to Ca residents.</p>
<p>I’d suggest looking at the University of Montana–strong football spirit, good club/IM sports, looks and feels like a “classic” college campus, around, 14,000 students or so (10,000 UG), out of state cost (tuition plus R&B) per year is around $27k, with WUE money possibly (knocks it down to about $15-16k).</p>
<p>OP, my D wanted out after her first semester too, although we persuaded her to return for spring semester. We absolutely insisted that she research her transfer options before she left, and come up with a realistic, viable plan, including the financing. And BTW, I didn’t lift a finger to help her – if she chose to leave a very good situation, then it was all on her to figure out where to jump. I didn’t see that as my responsibility at all.</p>
<p>Our story did have a happy ending though – but ONLY because she was smart enough to take a leave of absence from her college, rather than disenroll. Her plan was to take her soph year at our community college, and then transfer to a UC. But after one semester at the CC, she wanted to go back to her college, and she did. She’s now a very happy junior there.</p>
<p>Encourage your S not to make any irrevocable decisions. He loses nothing if he takes a leave and preserves his options. He can always disenroll once he has something else lined up.</p>
<p>Some (not all) CSU schools do accept lower division transfer students:
[CSUMentor</a> - Plan for College - Transfer Students - Lower-Division Transfer Requirements](<a href=“Cal State Apply | CSU”>Cal State Apply | CSU)</p>
<p>SDiegoMom: We are in the same boat. DS has decided his college is not a fit and he wants to study environmental issues here in CA. Most of the CSUs and UCs will not accept lower division transfers (as ucbalumnus pointed out). DS contacted the ones he was interested in. They told him to go to CC and transfer as a Jr. He did find one CSU taking transfers and has applied. He has done all the research and applications and payments so far. He says he has a plan and can’t wait to hear it. Good luck!</p>
<p>capenn15: So which CSU will take transfers?? Can’t tell by the CSU website. </p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>[CSUMentor</a> - Apply Online - Status Report](<a href=“Cal State Apply | CSU”>Cal State Apply | CSU)</p>
<p>Hope this helps. Humboldt maybe one of the few that is…</p>
<p>You probably have to check the transfer web site of each CSU campus to find out if it accepts lower division transfers. As noted above, the upper division (junior level) transfer route after attending community college is a much more well worn path.</p>
<p>Use [Welcome</a> to ASSIST](<a href=“http://www.assist.org%5DWelcome”>http://www.assist.org) to help choose courses at community college for transferability to CSU and UC campuses and majors.</p>
<p>We are out here on the East Coast. My son wanted to play D3 football. He could probably have made D2, but most of the schools in the division he wanted are in PA, and we are in NJ. A few recruited him but they have limited $ and they chose about 90% in-state students. He chose to go D3 for a sure thing.</p>
<p>He picked a small school because after several visits he liked it best. He was fine during football camp but soon after school started for everybody he realized it was ‘boring’ and the food service had been changed from when he visited. Not for the better! Also, he has to take 3 semesters of Spanish. They require you to get to intermediate. I think if you start higher you might not have to take 3. He HATED it (yes he had it in HS). He dropped it. I think that alone is a reason he wants to leave.</p>
<p>Luckily, our local University is much larger, but not huge, and does take transfers. In fact, since he is in first semester he is evaluated as a freshman. Problem is he doesn’t meet their standard in Eng SAT score and might not get in. The football coach really wants him, but can’t help. He would get to play spring football if he gets in for the spring, which will help him in the fall and keep him from getting lazy. (after playing for so many years!)</p>
<p>Choice 2 is a school that is a little larger than current school, but is only 35 minutes away. It has 730 freshmen as opposed to 480 at current school. Don’t know how many commuters at either. The close distance might offset any “boredom” That school is private and I think will take him. The football coach there also likes him a lot and really wanted him before. Problem with the private school is that the scholarship and financial aid grants that would have made it affordable might not be on the table again now. Also, down the road would the financial aid grants remain when I only have 1 kid in college…</p>
<p>Choice 3 is a semester at CC. Problem there is he might find it too convenient because it is one mile away and the work is not difficult (son #1 did fine without too much effort). We don’t want him to get too comfortable, not transfer to the University, and quit football. He likes football and we like watching him. If he wants to quit fball, it’s his choice, but I don’t want laziness from hanging with high school buddies to be the reason. He loves playing, but he might forget that by hanging with non-athletes at CC. I would hope he could get in as a fall transfer to the Univ…I’d hate all his work at football and the efforts of recruiting and visiting to be wsted by ending up at comm college…</p>
<p>Anyway, I agree that there is no reason to remain unhappy when there are reasonable alternatives. I’m glad our U does takes transfers, though they prefer CC graduates and give preference depending on how many credits completed. In this case he might have a better chance as a freshman than a transfer in the spring. No idea how many apply for how many spots. We are waiting to hear. My CC graduate son heard last Wed, but he was almost guaranteed due to CC degree and decent GPA.</p>
<p>Good Luck to all of you transfer parents!</p>