<p>@cebollas: I thought we agreed with dismay, not envy? Can others provide input?</p>
<p>Also, that question asked how the author of Passage 1 would view not giving in or something like that.</p>
<p>There really hasn’t been any discussion on dismay.</p>
<p>Do a thread search for “dismay” and you’ll get 4 pages of posts…</p>
<p>Does anybody remember the passage? It’s all a blur to me now, but I don’t distinctly remember the musicians being envious of the “standard” of the celebrity or “uncertain” (as others have argued) of the celebrity standard. If I recall correctly, which I’m probably not, weren’t the musicians serious artists and frowned down upon the celebrity type of status?</p>
<p>yes I think so.</p>
<p>Yup I did the search and I found NO discussion of dismay, even within the four pages.</p>
<p>Here is why I put envious.</p>
<p>The musicians were the ones the author described as never reaching the status of celebrity. The musicians were aspiring celebrities.</p>
<p>Thus the standard of celebrity would be something they are envious about considering the standard is something they want to reach.</p>
<p>I already did that and I got 4 pages of people listing dismay without any justification. Look at the list yourself and see if you can find any.</p>
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<p>Not to be mean or anything, but if you go up to the top right portion of the thread, click “Search this Thread” and type “dismay”, you get <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/search.php?searchid=16846390[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/search.php?searchid=16846390</a></p>
<p>For the Russian/Southern authors one…the question that asked what the author thought of the descriptions of sounds in the white Southern authors’ books…I kept going back and forth between “nostalgic but ultimately unsatisfying” and “faithful representations of life in the South”…because I thought she was unsatisfied because she kept looking for other reading material that resonated with her better…but the other choice made sense too. Which one did you guys go with and WHY?</p>
<p>Also! For the one that asked (celebrity passage) what passage 1 author would think of Edward Whoever [one of the choices was about challenging the publisher’s authority]…what did you guys choose and why… and WHAT WAS “B”? Because I was stupid and randomly bubbled it in because the proctor was calling time as I was trying to make a decision? </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>I got envy not dismay. Why are people sure of dismay? lets get an explanation</p>
<p>I agree. It seems like everybody has gone along with dismay simply because everybody who didn’t get it remained silent.</p>
<p>OK, so the question was how did the musicians view the standard of celebrity or something along those lines.</p>
<p>The sentence in question was “‘Every time I think I’m famous,’ Virgil Thomson said, ‘I have only to go out into the world.’ So it is, and so ought it probably to remain for writers, musicians, and visual artists who prefer to consider themselves serious.”</p>
<p>I think it really comes down to uncertain vs. dismay; envious is clearly wrong. How did people interpret “so ought it probably to remain for writers, musicians, and visual artists who prefer to consider themselves serious”?</p>
<p>Well, didn’t the musicians/writers consider themselves “serious”…so I thought they wouldn’t be envious of the celebrity culture…I thought it meant they looked down upon it.</p>
<p>hey, i put uncertainty for the dismay question. the mental answer i had was “disapproving”…and uncertainty was a lot closer to that than dismay. there is nothing at all surprising, there is nothing at all to be dismayed about-- celebrity culture isnt unexpected. however, entertainers torn between advancing their career and being serious regard this new culture with uncertainty</p>
<p>No, they’d be disappointed with the fact that some of their contemporaries are slipping into the superficiality involved with celebrity culture. Disappointed = view with dismay.</p>
<p>The writers the second author was referring to were disillusioned. They believed themselves to be celebrities.</p>
<p>Thus, when faced with the realization of the “standard” and that they are not celebrities.
They would be envious of those who are.</p>
<p>The quote you used isn’t justification since that is not the line the question was referring to.</p>
<p>dismay doesnt really equal disappointed…</p>
<p>I got stuck on the questions on the Indian Passage -_-;;</p>
<p>@van_sant: isn’t uncertain more like “wishy washy”?</p>
<p>dismay can defined as “fill with apprehension or alarm; cause to be unpleasantly surprised”, a definition that I would think fits better in context here. Let me know what you think.</p>
<p>@Dabigdawg72: here is the original article (SAT revised it a little); could you tell me what the test was referring to/when the musicians thought they were celebrities?</p>
<p>Edmund Wilson, the famous American literary critic, used to answer requests with a postcard that read:</p>
<pre><code>Edmund Wilson regrets that it is impossible for him to: Read manuscripts, Write articles or books to order, Make statements for publicity purposes, Do any kind of editorial work, Judge literary contests, Give interviews, Conduct educational courses, Deliver lectures, Give talks or make speeches, Take part in writers congresses, Answer questionnaires, Contribute or take part in symposiums or “panels” of any kind, Contribute manuscripts for sale, Donate copies of his books to Libraries, Autograph books for strangers, Allow his name to be used on letterheads, Supply personal information about himself, Supply photographs of himself, Supply opinions on literary or other subjects.
</code></pre>
<p>A fairly impressive list, I’d say. When I was young, Edmund Wilson supplied for me the model of how a literary man ought to carry himself. One of the things I personally found most impressive about his list is that everything Edmund Wilson clearly states he will not do, Joseph Epstein has now done, and more than once, and, like the young woman in the H</p>
<p>hmmn. maybe im taking the quote too literally, but doesnt it explicitly say the serious people preferred to be so?</p>
<p>imo, what the quote is saying is that for those who do not wish to submit to celebrity culture, it is best for them to remain insulated and to not embrace this new standard of value. i see the argument for dismay; i just think uncertain is slightly better.</p>