If you read further upstream OP shows why it’s maybe a B vs an A. So yea things happen that maybe make this deserved. Too many kids want to justify why the teacher is wrong. In one case, OP was docked for not showing work as an example.
Also OP is panicked but will hear from Yale this week. Why panic ? Her B from this semester will play zero part in the Yale or other school decisions.
OP is panicked for literally no reason in this case.
OP - please relax.
to clarify, the rubric did not say in any way to show work, so i put my final draft on the document only. she then said after i told her about that she said that she would accept it if i submitted it again, so I did, and then she said she wouldn’t accept additional submissions.
more relaxed about it now, its just not the best thing to happen i guess.
I understand - but - let’s just say there’s a reason you got a B. It’s a life lesson. Maybe it’s other things.
Please go back to what I said:
I hear back from yale this week,
You are saying the B will cost you - and I’m saying they won’t even see it.
You are over panicking yourself for no reason.
You got a B. It’s ok. This will happen in life - you’ll fall - although a B is not falling - and you’ll dust yourself off and get up.
And it’s 100% not going to impact your Yale decision. They’ve already made it.
Good luck.
Precalc is fine for most schools. Writing the explanation about your trajectory was a good move
If the school’s lowest math that they teach is calculus, then they need you to have taken precalc before arriving in order to have full access to courses and departments at the school. This is the explanation from Wesleyan university CT; they will reject students who have not taken precalc.
Some schools require calculus— that’s Mudd and I’m assuming MIT and CIT and that makes sense for these schools.
So I’d review your college list and see if any schools on it require calc for admission. If so, remove them
Agreed that UNC is not a low reach for ANY oos student. It has the same acceptance rate for OOS as most of your reach schools and this year they got more applicants than ever.
Sounds like you’ll be fine with acceptances, so you can’t worry about what is done. I do think not having a math class past pre-calc will be something schools will factor in since almost all students applying to the reach schools will have Calc and/or Stats.
She hasn’t ruined your shot at college. You have been accepted to a ton of schools. And you always need to show work in math. It’s a given. Sounds like a tough situation, but a B will not ruin things. An Ivy League school isn’t the end all be all. 99.9% of students go to non-ivy schools!
I took AP Stats, and the class in question was literature. I agree it’s a reach.
Hi guys, I got deferred. I’m really sad and don’t know what to think I feel like one part of my app was bad or something. Still processing quite sad and don’t want to wait a few more months.
And now they’re going to see a B on my mid report 
when I only took 4 classes.
You’re talking Yale - right ? You know their acceptance rate is low single digits. I know that doesn’t make you feel better but it’s an enormous get for those who do.
The other thing I’d remind you - a deferral just means they’re not ready to decide. It’s not a rejection. Maybe they want to see Fall grades.
A waitlist is a rejection but hedge for a school if they need more students. But you got deferred. It means you’re still very much in the game. 20% were deferred. 70% denied per their announcement.
All that said - remember dream schools don’t exist. You can and will excel at many schools.
And of Yale didn’t reject you that tells me you’ll be in at many fine schools.
Good luck.
Ps you can’t change this semester. And again the odds are highly unlikely to begin with. But they saw the schedule with only four classes and didn’t deny you.
Yale or otherwise - your future is bright if that’s what you want !!!
Thank you so much for this. Now I’m worried that my grades dropped so if they want to see my grades they might not like what they see
Let me be honest. I just read back. 88% of Yale submitted a test. You didn’t. The math isn’t there.
The most important school is a safety. I looked back. Your list is very heavy except for UMN.
Any other safeties - admission and affordability that I’m missing ?
The good thing about life - Yale and Penn give no assurance to success. But your fortitude and grit do.
I hope Yale for you. But even if it’s excellent UMN you have every chance in life to be just as successful.
I know it’s not easy to hear but it’s why you applied to so many.
Yale is just a near impossibility for the most accomplished. And yet 70% were rejected and you weren’t. That’s something to hang your hat on the rest of your life.
But take the night off. But I urge you to relook at your whole list. It started at 9-28 so not sure what 1-8 are. But accepted and affordable are the two main goals.
Good luck.
I know you feel sad but deferred is a win compared to rejected.
You must now choose and apply to a 100%need college with no loans for ED2. What are you thinking of?
If you still have anxiety about math, you can decide to take calculus through PSEO (even a slower paced calc class that rolls precalc into it will be a positive signal, because full speed weedout calc1 at UMN is likely to be an un-necessary and potentially deadly). Then what would your 3 other PSEO classes be? Interesting, challenging, in your would-be major?
(I honestly don’t think deferral is math related though. 95% get rejected and most were great, qualified, etc, etc. You didn’t get rejected but deferred so you’re better off than most .)
Hi, thanks so much for the reply. I don’t think I will apply early decision 2 just because I don’t have any top choices right now. I think I’ll just ride it out and apply through regular decision.
As for math, I will try and see if there’s a combined precalc calc class offered at any school in my area.
My second semester courses:
Taking an upper level undergrad course in political theory, precalc (maybe a combined class, looking), general biology 1, 2 upper level public health classes, and a gym class.
Sorry, I thought you’d already taken precalculus… in which case calc is not possible.
I found this advanced poli sci class which is actually quantitative/math.
I also found those
MATH1031 - College Algebra and Probability (3 Cr.)
CI1806 - College Algebra through Modeling
As well as 2 precalculus courses
MATH1051 - Precalculus I (noted "coverage beyond HS math)
MATH1151 - Precalculus II
Perhaps a city college or community college offering precalculus would be a PSEO alternative.
Political Theory and 2 upper level public health classes =** good**
General Biology is for bio majors and premeds… are you sure you want that for Spring senior year? Do you plan on being premed?
Found 4 bio classes, 1001, 1003, 1010, and 1009, with 1009 known to be the premed course.
Found these below that may be relevant to you (although you may already have taken them!)…
BIOL1055 - Environmental Biology: Science and Solutions with Laboratory
BIOL1012 - Human Biology: Concepts and Current Ethical Issues
BIOL1015 - Human Physiology, Technology, and Medical Devices
AGRO1101 - Biology of Plant Food Systems
However you already have 4 PSEO classes, do you need to take a 5th, especially one with lab, since political theory is going to require a lot of complex reading, precalculus may be tough, and you would have 2 upper level public health classes… not trying to doscourage from taking 17 credits but trying to see whether it’s good.
ED2 is your best shot at a no-loan meet need college though… worth thinking about.
Thank you so much for this!!! This was so so helpful. I was actually considering being pre-med from when I first entered high school to my junior year! I am not sure still about what field I would like to go into but I want to keep my options open by taking 1009. I will finalize my schedule once the semester starts, if taking 5 classes and a gym is too much, I can always add/drop for the next two weeks into the semester (hopefully don’t plan on dropping). But thank you guys so so much for your help.
Also, do you guys have any deferral LOCI tips? I am unsure of what to write but am thinking of sending it in maybe late January to give time for adding accomplishments.
I saw the CC thread and saw that people with perfect grades got deferred too…seeing that my grades weren’t perfect and I was taking only 4 classes kind of gives me hope in a sick sense. But I’m taking it as a rejection and will definitely update you guys in RD.
I will consider ED 2 as I continue to do my college research!
Haha I didnt mention but I forgot to report my AP scores to Yale. They probably thought I failed even though I got fours. 
Looks like 4s don’t get anything.
You might get into Yale but perhaps it’s not the right school for you. Numerically it’s not (stat wise) but perhaps other things get you in (FG).
In the meantime, keep it on the list - but what’s the rest of the plan?
Are there affordable and assured admittances? I know UMN is if you live home. Any others?
From the list you showed (was numbered 9-29), I didn’t see any. What was 1-8?
Stat wise? What do you mean by this?
My other safeties were:
Match:
9. University of Minnesota, Twin Cities EA
And I’ve gotten into all of them
Edit: they are not the most affordable. I got around 120k in merit (and for one of them I’m a finalist for the full ride) so I’m waiting on the fafsa
Sorry I made have had your GPA wrong - but I meant statistically.
If 88% submit a test (and much of the rest might be athletes or QB, etc) then it’s going to be hard to get in without a test.
You have a hook - so that’s great.
If you can’t afford them, they’re not good. But if you find one you can afford or get the full ride to, then it’s all gravy.
Any others are icing on the cake.
If I remember correctly, you could do UMN and live at home to afford??
Hopefully more good news is coming - but you need to plan for the worst case, not best case.
Don’t worry about Yale…don’t beat yourself up…round 1 is over and you never know how round two comes out. But you have to prepare in the meantime for the worst case.
That’s why an affordable safety…not just safety…but affordable…is on the list.
Good luck.