School X vs. School Y

<p>I posted my reflection, below, to console re: rejections and the crowd went wild – actually one student there encouraged me to also post it on this particular thread, so here it is: </p>

<p>Education is an interactive, transactional experience. Once you get wherever you WILL go, that mutual exchange will become your education, not the name of the school offering it to you.</p>

<p>From the outside you can know very little and some places seem so appealing. But once you are on the inside of wherever you will go, that’s where the real learning and growing begins.</p>

<p>I learned this from my kids. Eldest was so disappointed when he didn’t get his dream school on ED. All winter he wouldn’t tell people (b/c everyone and their uncle asked…) what he thought of the other 7 places he applied (in addtion to hoping for the carryover from the ED place). In his mind he tried to make them all his “second choice” equally rather than create a mental ranking list. He said, “I’ll wait and see where I get in and then I’ll take it from there.”
Soon after April 1, he had answers from all 8: accepted to 4, rejected by 2 (including his ED hoped-for), waitlisted by 2.</p>

<p>THEN he prioritized among the places he was accepted, immediately withdrew from one of them. He made some phone calls, contemplated revisiting one but didn’t, and just announced it as his decision. What began as a passionate quest turned into a rational decision-making process for him. I was witness to that journey. We didn’t care where he went since all 8 places were worthy and each had a flaw. Some were Ivy’s, some LAC’s, although none were public so there was no signficant difference in the finances to influence the decision. One small difference financially did cause him to toss out from among the 4 that accepted him, however.</p>

<p>Off he went in the Fall. He was excited and curious about his new adventure, but I could tell that the rejection from dream-school still lingered in his mind, since he’d become SO attached to it. </p>

<p>In October, we got a wonderful email home, all about how he was loving his courses, being in college, making friends, meeting his professors, on and on. He wrote, “If I could have known how HAPPY I’d be in my ‘second choice’ school it would have been my #1 all along!”</p>

<p>But he couldn’t have imagined his joy before he actually got there and began interacting with his own education.</p>

<p>Before that, all this is the shopper’s view from the outside.</p>

<p>For a while, since he was in a better position to hear about lots of schools once he got onto any campus, he picked up negative little vignettes from people who had sibs or whatever at his original “dream school.” Based upon what demonstrably thrilled him at his actual school, he realized that his learning style better matched the school he was in. Darned if the school that took him hadn’t perceived that “rightness of fit” even better than he could have!</p>

<p>I hope that my story helps a few who find meaning in it. You are not buying a commodity here; you’re gaining entree into a learning situation in which you will have many astonishing choices in the place you DO attend. You can’t even know what they are, but the things that could make you happy next fall might include: a dedicated professor; a major only that school offered well; a favorite cafe; some quiet place on the campus you choose that makes your spirit soar everytime you stop there. These things aren’t on any tour or website because only YOU discover them, and that won’t be until next fall when you’re in your “not-first-choice” place.</p>

<p>Trust yourself. You are young enough to have had one dream but old enough to catch the next wave, too. The next wave will probably take you further if you let it, and you will.</p>

<p>And so the school X vs. school Y threads start to pop up en masse… and yet the world will keep turning after all the decisions are made.</p>

<p>Good luck with your decision everyone, and I do sincerely hope you are happy with it in the long-run!</p>

<p>^^ I guess this is a normal thing, then?</p>

<p>This whole X vs. Y is sort of a turnoff – I think I like CC a lot better at other times.</p>

<p>(Seriously, half the time, this X vs. Y seems like the person is just bragging about getting in – he/she oftentimes doesn’t even say what he/she’s looking for in a college, just “i got into X and Y!!! where should i go???/”)</p>

<p>…is not to be found on an internet forum. </p>

<p>It’s a very personal decision and it’s ultimately a matter of what’s the best fit for the individual. My D applied to schools for violin performance and one of the blessings of the audition process is that you get to visit (and get snowed in twice in the process) each school you’re considering. With music, a big consideration is the teacher – as much as the school. We had a very nice conversation with a teacher at Rice, someone who did not do trial lessons, and we asked how does a student make a good choice. And her answer was golden: You spend a day at the school and you’ll know in your gut if it’s right. </p>

<p>As it turned out, Rice looked great on paper but my D hated it. She loved NYU, USC and, a big surprise for us, Northwestern. </p>

<p>So, go visit the schools. Your gut will tell you.</p>

<p>hkstrpd, you are so right! My D got into the VA state ui’s which are highly competitive. Lots of schools look great on paper, until you visit and sit in on an admisssions talk. We went to one very prestigous school -where kids and parent trip overthemselves to get in - and D was not impressed. Visiting and getting that gut feeling is the deciding factor.</p>

<p>LBP- That’s funny, because a very similar experience was the main turn-off for my D at Rice. The music school admissions office had an orientation session for parents and students, and parent after parent complained about having to complete the CollegeBoard Profile and FAFSA when they didn’t need any aid, like it was huge imposition and invasion of privacy. There were other reasons, too, but it just snowballed from there.</p>

<p>My experience wasn’t terribly different. I got into a number of schools ranked higher than my alma mater (UCLA). I visited them, didn’t find their campuses or “feel” to be what I wanted, and chose UCLA in the end.</p>

<p>I still get the whole “you chose UCLA instead of _____?” thing. Oh well. They didn’t get to have the best 3 years of their lives! :)</p>

<p>so it’s a choice between Davis and Irvine…
my major is nursing and i knoe that Irvine has a nursing science major HOWEVER, do i still have to go through 4 years of graduate school before i begin working?? is it possible to earn the B.S in nursing and NOT go to grad school?
Davis does not have a nursing program… HOWEVER, i heard that Davis is known for medical majors while Irvine is more for engineering?? is that true?? even though Davis does not have a nursing major, i can still major in Biology or Chemistry and then go to grad school right??</p>

<p>bottom line…
if i have to go to Grad school after Davis or Irvine, i should just go to Davis since Davis is renowned for medical majors… right??
if i do NOT have to go to Grad school , then i should just go to Irvine… yea??</p>

<p>please help me decide!!</p>

<p>ahhaulafffunni3,</p>

<p>Please read the first post. This isn’t the thread for this…</p>

<p>o… sorry
i feel better after reading the first post. lol
i think i have a feel for which college i want.
thanks</p>

<p>Totally agree. Even though the name is important, your happiness is even more important than that. And if you are good in what you study, you will be succesful no matter what.</p>

<p>Hey all! I hope everyone is doing great! I am really excited to get started with the online community of people who have somewhere togo in life! any ways I need help with something though, I was recently accepted to UCSC and just found yesterday that I also got into UCI. I am debating whether to go to UCI major in biochem/ pre-med or go to UCSC same major. Half of me wants to go to UCSC because I want to experience the college fun but then i also want to go to UCI because I have a higher chance of getting into med school! and thats the part the excites me, please give me some advise on where I should go! who knows, you might just change someones life in a good way just by helping them make a decision. so yeah ro re-state my question…SHOULD I GO TO UCI OR UCSC? o yeah one other thing UCI is closer to the city I am currently in, but I feel i would do better away from my family and friends, especialy my friends. please help</p>

<p>Mari,</p>

<p>Consider a thread in one of the two school’s forums. This thread isn’t really for this sort of particular discussion.</p>

<p>I am afraid I know knoe what your talking about?</p>

<p>Try the UCI or UCSD forums. This thread is more about the philosophy of school vs. school discussions.</p>

<p>Ok here’s the scenario…</p>

<p>My decision has come down to two schools. </p>

<p>1st school:
I first visited Washington University in St. Louis last spring and have loved it since I first stepped on campus. I have been back 4-5 times and fall in love even more each time I am there. I am going to major in economics and go on to grad school to obtain a dual MBA/JD degree. Also, I will have the opportunity to play for the Bears Women’s Basketball Team which has been a DIII powerhouse for over 20 years. I love the coaches, the team, and everyone I have met at WashU. It has pretty much been a dream of mine for the last year to attend WashU. I have gotten a pretty good financial aid package but it will still cost me $20,000 a year to attend.</p>

<p>2nd school:
On March 23, I was awarded one of the most prestigious scholarships in the state of Indiana. This scholarship is a four-year full-tuition scholarship to any accredited public or private university in the state of Indiana. If I choose to stay in Indiana, I will attend DePauw University. DePauw is a great school and has a strong reputation for its economics department. I went down to visit this week and was accepted into the Management Fellows Program. This is a prestigious program that will ensure me an awesome internship and great connections upon graduation. Also at DePauw, I will have the opportunity to play basketball. They also are DIII and ironically beat WashU in the national championship game (so no matter what I will be playing at an awesome and well-respected program). Now that I’ve had the opportunity to visit DePauw, I now love the coaches, the team, and everyone I have met there as well. If I chose to attend DePauw, I will be making money, because I was awarded a $17,000 scholarship before I received the full-ride. I have talked to my parents and it sounds like I will be able to pick out any new car I would like if I choose to attend DePauw also.</p>

<p>I just wanted to get some imput while I was making my decision.
DePauw or WashU??
At WashU I will come out with close to $80,000 in loans, at DePauw I will have nothing to pay at all.
Which one of these schools sounds like the better choice and opportunity?
Thanks in advance for your feedback.</p>

<p>This is not the thread for this…please read the first post.</p>

<p>I just wanted to commend the OP for such a down-to-earth and inspiring post. I think deep down we all know this, except society taints our views in a radical way - and it’s really unfortunate.</p>

<p>I just want to commend the OP for staying calm and being nice when dealing with those who can’t seem to read, as shown above.</p>

<p>lol, a mod should change the title of this thread</p>