<p>Creative 1, Earlier when I posted ‘Spots’ you said it was miss leading and we changed it to acceptance. Letters clearly indicates ‘no of places’ or ‘openings’. I agree per my earlier post it should be spots or places or opeings. Accepatnce is misleading. Why don’t you change it.</p>
<p>Irrespective of "spots’, ‘acceptance’, ‘places’ what ever is politically correct, the issue is this year things are really tight when it comest to addmission and FA awards. People who are betting the waitlist will open up, are dreaming and will be disoppointed if they don’t take the acceptances they already have or they should immediatly start applying to Tier-2 Tier -3 schools which are also good, rather then waiting for the waitlist to open up.</p>
<p>newebs - It is not a matter of what is politically correct. Acceptances and spots are 2 totally different things. I said it was acceptances for SPS and spots for Middlesex and Groton. I do not know the data for other schools, therefore I choose not to post it. What I take issue with is you posting misleading info based on calling all either spots or acceptances. You’re mixing data. It does matter because in the case of Groton for example it would mean the difference between 8% accepted - as you posted the info - vs. something more like 14-15% if you take yield into consideration. </p>
<p>Also, your Thacher data is obviously wrong as others have pointed out. </p>
<p>Yes, it is an extremely competitive year. However, it may turn out that schools go to their waitlist more than in the past. Last year, several top tier schools overenrolled due to the changing landscape due to economic uncertainty right now. I beleive that many schools are being conservative in their acceptances. It may turn out that they go to their waitlists. Who knows? Time will tell.</p>
<p>Perhaps, someone can explain this better to newebs as I see he/she has reposted again changing EVERYTHING back to openings. I give up…</p>
<p>Yes, neato, partly because this thread is a data heavy thread. We have threads named “impression of…” or “favorite songs”, where this obsession with data would be no use.</p>
<p>I think the source of newebs’ data is a little problematic. (in that sense it’s not newebs’ fault that ppl reading it get confused) SPS’s 185 is the number of acceptances not spots right? Then for which school it is acceptances and which spots?</p>
<p>Here are is some of the language from the letters we received:</p>
<p>SPF " This year received over 1,300 applicaiton for 185 places in the school - a 14% admit rate"
Taft 'over 1,500 students applying for only 160 positions"
Milton- “over 1,000 applications for fewer than 150 opeinings”
Groton- over 1,000 application for only 82 places"</p>
<p>You can debate on how you want to show this results. </p>
<p>The point I am trying to make is, this year admission is very tight, and people hoping the waitlist will open up may be dissappointed.</p>
<p>Wondering about the huge difference in applicants between burrito’s numbers and Benly’s numbers. Did Exeter really have more than 3,000 completed applicantions or did they inculded folks who started the process, maybe with an interview, but did not finish the application.</p>
<p>I will provide actual detail tomorrow. But I can say this right now: around 430 applications this season and about 75 offers. The yield should be very high, but it’s still unknown. Last year, I think it was about 83%. Anyway, I’ll have the actual scoop shortly and will pass it on.</p>
<p>i dunno. i’m an exeter fan, but it seems to me that they’re just not as forthcoming with unambiguous data as some other schools are. i find that aspect of exeter pretty disappointing.</p>
<p>One should assume that any school is going to give you their number of preliminary applicants, or those who started the process but didn’t necessarily complete it. </p>
<p>Obviously these schools want to make themselves sound as competitive as possible. That is also why many schools give the “number of spaces” instead of the number of actual admits. It is their prerogative to use these numbers. Though it’s admirable of you all to try and figure out their admit rates, don’t assume you’re comparing apples to apples here.</p>
My understanding of what GemmaV said here is that if a school doesn’t say the number of applications they use to calculate the admit rate is the number of completed applications, then it means that it is the number of preliminary applications. Then of course, how many of them have not been completed is anyone’s guess.</p>
<p>the official groton acceptance rate this year is 14%, according to a mailing which came after the acceptance package. it contains a dvd with videos about groton along with a note which says, in part, “We admitted only 14% of our applicants this year so you have reason to feel pretty good right now” so, take its advice, and feel good :)</p>
<p>What is this mailing! I havn’t got it yet. All I got was FA stuff and revist letters/acceptance letter in an envelope. When did it come? And what area do you live in?</p>
<p>i got mine three days after i got the acceptance packet /revisit stuff. (it came today) it’s pretty small. get excited for it!!! i live on the west coast</p>
<p>some schools, like andover, do say very clearly the number of preliminary applications and the number of completed applications. i wish they were all that open about it, not just to satisfy my curiosity but also to raise my opinion of them.</p>
<p>Needless to say, there are very few spots, call them places, openings or whatever, but this is a very tedious process for the schools. We really don’t know if they are accepting extra students because they know money is tight and they realize their yields could be less or if they are really looking at the FA and families that can actually pay and accepting what they think will accept. There are so many variables that go into this process that you can analyze this forever and go back and forth for days. If you got accepted you are very lucky because only a handful have actually been accepted, if you are waitlisted you should also be very proud because it means if there were more spots and dollars you would have been accepted, if you were rejected you should still hold your head high and realize that there are alot of other schools out there and if you are going to apply to only the top schools it is very competitive and you have to be realisitc about being rejected and realize there are so few who get in. The schools are not going to divulge everything there is still a little mystery in this, good luck to every one. My thoughts are that there should be some surprises from the waitlists because in the end not everyone will accept where you want to go and not everyone who wants to go will attend because of money!</p>
<p>There was an Exonian article in January that Exeter Admissions had counted about 2600 completed applications as of January 18th. They hadn’t finished counting yet. No article after that.</p>
<p>Thank you Dexter 13 for that very positive e-mail. My son was waitlisted at five schools – Andover, Groton, Choate, Hotchkiss and Lawrenceville. This was such a strange, frenzied year. My sense is there will be a little movement, but I’m not certain the admissions folk will come back to him. He’s from the Southwest, which is good, but his SSATs were terrible! Everything else was great, including him.</p>
<p>Hi hpspringseternal, I am trying to keep positive about the situation, but there seem to be so many variables. My son too was waitlisted at the same schools except Groton and Lawrenceville. My sense is that there will be movement and I think mostly because of dollars. My son too perfect everything except those dreaded SSATs. I thought he was going to do awesome on them, we didn’t prepare because of school, bs apps and hockey, we just had no time to fit everything in so the one thing that got scrapped from our schedule was good preparation for them. We will see what happens, i know everyone did not do well on them, and if they did they seem to have been accepted somewhere. Every kid can’t go to everyschool and this group applied to many so, good luck and keep your fingers crossed that we get a phone call from someone!</p>
And what area do you live in?</p>