Seat-recline wars: what is acceptable behavior on a plane?

<p>"…but that is the laptop user’s problem. If people were not meant to be allowed to recline, there would be no “recline” button"</p>

<p>Have you ever seen ashtrays in the armrests and in the lavatories? That does not mean that smoking is allowed. Existence of something could be a simply structural atavism - cost of removal vs benefit of its removal. </p>

<p>Re shoes, I have some very attractive Dansko sandals that I can walk in over cobblestones or pretty much any footing for any distance.</p>

<p>Great shoes that are lightweight and you can dress-up or not. Tag line for the shoe is from cobblestones to cocktails. Website is: <a href=“http://www.charlestonshoeco.com”>www.charlestonshoeco.com</a></p>

<p>Company is run by a great young woman–she’s got 6 or 7 stores now as well as selling online. I love the shoes.</p>

<p>^^^^^ Oh nooooooo…that is a great shoe site…dang…not the temptation I need.</p>

<p>Ahahahaha!!! Love those shoes. Do they run true to the stated size?</p>

<p>I was on a Southwest flight yesterday and it was an eye opener. I had a stopover but didn’t have to change planes. They told us to waaaaaaait until they counted us all (25) and then we would have “plenty of time” to stretch our legs, move seats, and use the lavatory. Lies! I managed to move my seat but then got stuck in a 5 person lavatory line (the other line was longer) and the new people were already boarding.</p>

<p>For all of you who are mad that those first overhead bins are already full? It’s the flight crew who fills them, with their own bags. I saw it happen when they had a crew change on this flight. </p>

<p>Also, the 4 of us standing there waiting for the forward lavatory were blocking seats. I would say, “this row is open” occasionally to the newcomers to clarify because otherwise they wouldn’t know. On the first leg I asked about a window seat (unoccupied but a woman was standing in the row - she told me it was taken). I realized later that she had just claimed that row for whoever she was traveling with who was had a later boarding number. I won’t fall for that again! </p>

<p>On my next flight - ORD to BOS taking D back to school. She’s on a diff flight at the same time since her trip is a “return” from when she came home in May. Oversold but I’m ensconced in Econ Plus with plenty of room if the person in front of me decided to recline :slight_smile: </p>

<p>DAMN! Bromfield!! I love those shoes. I’ll be ordering. The boots look awesome.</p>

<p>The airlines helped to create this problem by cramming increasing numbers of seats into their planes. They can solve it by installing seats that don’t recline.</p>

<p>In the meantime, passengers can learn the difference between a right and a privilege, and begin to think of a reclining seat as a privilege. I’ve never told someone not to recline, but I’ve certainly refrained from reclining when sitting in front of a tall person, a fat person, or a pregnant woman. And I never recline the entire way. I am more than happy to give up this privilege if it helps someone else’s experience to suck a little less.</p>

<p>If we all just lower our expectations and recognize that flying will never be comfortable, we can get along that much better as travelers enduring a common trial, rather than as individuals carving out territories to make our own experience better.</p>

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<p>Would these be cheapos or the pricey ones? I have a new Dell laptop and as I’m wearing shorts, have had it sitting on my bare legs for almost 3 hours while I surf and read a book on my PC Kindle app. It’s barely even warm, much less is it overheating or burning my skin.</p>

<p>I know a lot of people have to bring their laptops when travelling, but for actual use during a flight a tablet or a smartphone is a lot more convenient.</p>

<p>Nrdsb4, my MacBook Pro gets really hot if I have it on my lap for any length of time. And I was just in a meeting the other day where my coworker’s PC was hot enough to fry an egg on. (I don’t think they are supposed to heat up like this, but they do!)</p>

<p>Our D’s laptop literally cooked the hard drive and became a total loss. Luckily AmEx Costco gave a total refund. S and D have both had laptops that are top of the line but overheat badly. We mostly don’t use our two laptops and prefer the iPad mini, iPhones and kindle fires or desktops. Works for us. </p>

<p>I have not had problems with having seats reclined or reclining my seat in the decades of flying. I have been flying in economy plus pretty exclusively since 2008, so that may be part of the reason it’s been working pretty well for us. </p>

<p>My Dell is kind of annoying because the cursor screen is so sensitive. If you barely pass over it on your way to type or go to a certain key, it will often change pages or act as if you have clicked on something. But it stays cool, so I guess I will count my blessings. :)</p>

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Some of us think that expecting the person sitting in front of you not to recline is a privilege and not a right. Same with someone using a laptop that they want to keep on the tray table - why shouldn’t that be considered a privilege instead of a right? I figure we’ll be more comfortable if everyone reclines rather than if everyone is sitting upright, and I sure hope the airlines don’t solve this problem by switching to upright-only seats.</p>

<p>I would prefer upright-only seats, if they made the headrest moveable. How difficult would that be for them? Not at all, but they don’t seem to care. </p>

<p>Have you ever tried to exit your seat when the person in front of you was reclined? Or the whole row was reclined? You can’t possibly stand up without grabbing the top of their seat. </p>

<p>I honestly have never had one iota of a problem with people in front of me reclining their seats. I never knew anyone even objected to this until I read a thread on the subject here at CC a few years ago!</p>

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<p>Can be both. Only exceptions are if one’s running an especially low-powered cool-running processor equipped notebook which tends to be cheap, but too underpowered for much more than basic word processing and internet browsing. A few I’ve played with won’t even play a low-resolution streaming video very well. </p>

<p>The problem tends to be worse with folks insisting on the highest-end i7 processors/GPUs targeted towards aspiring notebook gamers.*</p>

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<li>IMO, if one really wants to get the most bang for their gaming PC buck and avoid the overheating issues inherent in high-end CPU/GPU based notebooks, one’s better off building a desktop dedicated to gaming. It also offers much more flexibility to swap newer/better parts in as time goes on.<br></li>
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<p>“I honestly have never had one iota of a problem with people in front of me reclining their seats. I never knew anyone even objected to this until I read a thread on the subject here at CC a few years ago!”</p>

<p>I never did either. I just figured, they paid for it, shrug. I think it’s courteous to look behind you which signals you’re about to do so. </p>

<p>Back to comfortable shoes for plane trips. </p>

<p>BB – the Charlestown Shoe Co shoes run true to size. They don’t have half sizes and I wear 9.5. I went down to a 9.</p>