Second Ebola patient

[Lizardly]

<p>A sideways observation: anybody read World War Z? It is a zombie novel, but really an pandemic novel. I seem to remember the small countries who acted early and could wall themselves off did the best. </p>

[Bay]

<p>Canada has an Ebola vaccine in human trials. I think that is how we will conquer it. </p>

[scholarme]

<p>TatinG, that’s a good question, and probably too controversial to ask on CC.</p>

<p>Btw, does the 70% mortality rate include people who survive Ebola but die a week or two later of a secondary illness that their weakened body couldn’t handle?</p>

[GMTplus7]

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Canada has an Ebola vaccine in human trials. I think that is how we will conquer it.

FYI
<a href=“Canadian-made Ebola vaccine begins human trials in US | Ebola | The Guardian”>http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/13/canada-testing-ebola-vaccine-humans-in-the-us&lt;/a&gt;

The vaccine will be tested on healthy individuals Monday to see how well it works, whether there are side effects and what the proper dosage is, Health Minister Rona Ambrose said.</p>

<p>“The Canadian vaccine provides great hope and promise because it has shown to be 100% effective in preventing the spread of the Ebola virus when tested on animals,” she said.

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[jym626]

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There’s the this-is-no-big-deal crowd: No one has to rule out colleges in Maine now (ha ha smirk, smirk), but OMG we won’t have chocolate!

Bay, perhaps I am misreading, but I don’t think anyone is saying this is no big deal. It is a big deal. Its a frightening and lethal disease. What people are saying is that the risk of exposure to the everyday person is low, so no need to overreact or get worked into a frenzy. Yes, focus should be on illness containment at many sources, but to not fly to Dallas or consider applying to a school where there has been a confirmed or suspected case is over the top.</p>

[CTTC]

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@actingmt

As for NIH funding, when the list of stupid studies comes out that case is going to be harder to make, imho.

Take a look at #4 on this list from 2012:</p>

<p><a href=“Massaging Rabbits And 17 Other Questionable Taxpayer Funded Scientific Studies”>http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmaris/2012/10/24/massaging-rabbits-and-17-other-questionable-tax-payer-funded-scientific-studies/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

[Nrdsb4]

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There are internet rumors that Pham’s boyfriend has been admitted with symptoms. But the sources are unfamiliar to me.

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<p>I don’t know where those sources are getting their information, but WFAA in Dallas states that the nurse’s boyfriend is in isolation for “abundance of caution,” but is currently asymptomatic. </p>

<p>Obviously without being on the inside we can’t know anything for sure.</p>

[NYMomof2]

<p>actngmt and CTTC, those studies you reference come from one institute within NIH, the Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine, which was started under pressure from certain politicians who believed that they had been helped by dubious therapies. It has a history of battles between politicians, who don’t think rigorous science is necessary, and NIH officials, who do. These studies are NOT representative of NIH-funded projects. The CAM receives well under 1% of NIH funding, and NIH has no choice but to fund these crappy projects. </p>

[Iglooo]

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Is there any evidence that the medical care being given in the hot zone is actually bringing down the death rate of the disease?

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<p>Not yet. I heard on NPR the other day. It’s spreading too fast erasing any gains. They are hoping they can reverse the fred when the hospitals they are building now are operational. Still a few months away at least.</p>

[Flossy]

<p>What department did the drinking overweight lesbians study? That’s the one I’m currently hearing about from critics. I agree asking for more money is going to bring out a lot of interesting information about what gets funded.</p>

[partyof5]

<p>Not sure if this is legit, but it appears her boyfriend was being monitored out of caution, not because he was exhibiting symptoms.</p>

<p>Here is a link to a letter sent out by his employer, could totally be fake
<a href=“Dallas Nurse BOYFRIEND MAY HAVE EBOLA - TheCount.com”>http://thecount.com/2014/10/14/nina-pham-boyfriend-ebola/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

[jym626]

<p>Agree, partyof5. That letter says he is being monitored for "potential"signs and symptoms. Whoever titled that article as they did, that he “MAY HAVE EBOLA” (this is capitalized in the article). is irresponsible.</p>

[NYMomof2]

<p>Flossy, that grant is funded by NIAAA (Institute of Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism). Here is the information (from NIH Reporter, searchable database of funded grants):</p>

<p><a href=“RePORT ⟩ RePORTER”>RePORT ⟩ RePORTER;

<p>Here is the description meant for the public: " This study will examine how the accumulation of life stressors such as childhood sexual abuse, adult sexual assault, and discrimination based on race/ethnicity or sexual orientation are related to psychological distress and hazardous drinking in adult women. Understanding how different groups of women respond to and cope with multiple life stressors will aid the development of more effective alcohol abuse prevention and intervention strategies for understudied groups of women."</p>

[Flossy]

<p>Thanks. I found it. It turns out there were two studies. How much have they spent on Ebola?</p>

<p>“The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has awarded $2.7 million to study why lesbians are at a higher “risk for hazardous drinking.The University of Illinois has received grants since 2009 for its project, “Cumulative Stress and Hazardous Drinking in a Community of Adult Lesbians,” which aims to develop “culturally sensitive” strategies to prevent lesbians from being drunks.”</p>

<p>“Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, Mass., has received two grants totaling $1.5 million from The National Institutes of Health’s (NIH) Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD) to examine the “interplay of gender and sexual orientation in obesity disparities,” according to the report.” </p>

<p>They also reportedly studied origami condoms. I think the point is critics could have a field day with some of this stuff.</p>

[TatinG]

<p><a href=“http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2014/10/14/doctors-without-borders-loses-9-medics-to-ebola”>http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2014/10/14/doctors-without-borders-loses-9-medics-to-ebola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>16 Doctors Without Borders medics have become infected. 9 have died. </p>

<p>From what I’ve seen on TV, they wear the full head to toe protective gear. </p>

[jym626]

<p>Remember, they live in the community and its possible they were exposed outside of the healthcare facility.</p>

[mathmom]

<p>Clearly dh should stop studying cancer and start studying massage and meditation!</p>

[scholarme]

<p>I’m curious - why do some people, like the boyfriend & the person in Maine, get quarantined in a medical facilty, while others, like Duncan’s girlfriend & her family, get quarantined at home?</p>

[NYMomof2]

<p>Alcoholism and obesity are much more important health problems than Ebola. It is true that critics could have a field day making fun of many serious scientific projects. They could start with Barbara McClintock, who spent her entire career working with corn - and made discoveries worthy of the Nobel Prize.</p>

[GMTplus7]

<p>Some people don’t seem to understand the concept of quarantine</p>

<p><a href=“NBC's Dr. Nancy Snyderman apologizes for breaking Ebola isolation agreement when in Princeton - nj.com”>NBC's Dr. Nancy Snyderman apologizes for breaking Ebola isolation agreement when in Princeton - nj.com;

Princeton resident Dr. Nancy Snyderman, NBC’s chief medical editor and correspondent… she apologized for breaking the voluntary self-confinement agreement she made with federal, state and local officials while living in Princeton after traveling to West Africa.</p>

<p>“As a health professional I know that we have no symptoms and pose no risk to the public, but I am deeply sorry for the concerns this episode caused,” she said.

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<p>I had no idea that arrogance confers immunity to ebola</p>