Second Ebola patient

<p>They are moving the second nurse to Atlanta. I just saw a guy on TV say that they ought to send all Ebola patients to one of the four centers. I don’t see how that will work over the long term. They need to figure out what went wrong in Texas so that other hospitals can handle Ebola and don’t make the same mistakes. </p>

<p>I think that they will have to quickly develop several more regional hospitals that are truly prepared to deal with it. Boston, New York, Minneapolis, Seattle, various cities in CA.</p>

<p>Most likely major regional teaching hospitals, not smaller private places with a boutique focus. </p>

<p>^^ That’s a good thing if they are transporting her to Emory, imo.</p>

<p><a href=“Ebola-infected nurse arrives at Atlanta's Emory hospital for treatment”>Ebola-infected nurse arrives at Atlanta's Emory hospital for treatment;

<p>Now the CDC says they will be ‘making sure’ none of the people who cared for Duncan will be traveling. </p>

<p>Before they said that the healthcare workers ‘were being monitored’ for symptoms of Ebola, implying that someone was taking their temperatures. Obviously if this nurse went to Cleveland for a few days, no one was monitoring her temperature. </p>

<p>She flew Monday night. Tuesday morning she has a fever. </p>

<p>I think that the 4,000 troups being sent to help with Ebola are being put at risk. I hope they have plans in place if some of them get Ebola. They said on CNN that between the 4 centers they only have 10 beds set up for Ebola patients. </p>

<p>This source says the second nurse, Amber Vinson, actually did have a low-grade fever (99.5) on the plane.<a href=“http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/10/15/second-dallas-hospital-worker-diagnosed-ebola/17290677/”>http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/10/15/second-dallas-hospital-worker-diagnosed-ebola/17290677/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Have patriotic Texans been asked to refrain from travelling out of state until the crisis is over?</p>

<p>They WERE told not to fly on commercial planes and apparently didn’t listen. Similarly the NBC Doctor was told to self quarantine and didn’t listen. Duncan did or should have know he was exposed and traveled anyway. This is how it spreads . . . people are stupid or selfish or both and it only takes a few here and there to get the ball rolling.</p>

<p>So far we have been lucky that Ebola, unlike many other viruses, is not that contagious before symptoms appear. </p>

<p>Let’s hope it doesn’t mutate out of that behavior.</p>

<p>I’m not sure they were told not to travel. I see the CDC director saying that NOW they will be making sure they don’t travel, meaning that before they weren’t making sure, weren’t being monitored by anyone other than themselves. </p>

<p>Who, exactly, has the power to tell a free American citizen who has no symptoms of any disease that he or she can’t travel where he or she wants to?</p>

<p>There is a difference between “told not to” and “making sure” . . . we are presumably a country of individual rights and freedoms where we trust that people will be honorable and all that. People are reluctant to have a government agency mandate a restriction of personal freedoms.</p>

<p>I dont know if Duncan was aware the woman he helped had Ebola, there are stories she was believed to have malaria. Certainly the first nurse didnt know what she would be facing, but I have no sympathies for the second nurse, especially since she knew her coworker had been diagnosed. She is contributing to some of the hysteria. One would think a healthworker would know a self quarantine means just that, but apparently they have to be forced to mandatory</p>

<p>Having said that, I dont believe anyone was in danger on the plane, and I think this is causing folks to panic. What we do know is the only folks that have been infected are people that came in contact with Duncan at the end of his life. I wish the news media would reiterate that the folks that were living with Duncan, even when he was symptomatic ARE NOT SICK. It seems this point is lost in all of the hysteria.</p>

<p>Then we’d better expect that people will do things they’re “told” not to, including people who should know better. We now have a doctor who broke voluntary quarantine, and a nurse who flew when she’d been told not to. But we expect Liberians to meekly stay put?</p>

<p>OTOH, a Texas flight ban would have prevented the nurse from flying, right? </p>

<p>Facetiousness aside, the difference between flying from Liberia and flying from Texas is the number of cases. Flying from a hotspot with thousands of cases would increase the likelihood of contagion beyond an acceptable level. Of course you all know that, but scoring points is all.</p>

<p>As far as raising money, the Liberian community is very engaged and very active, which is why their collective immigration has long held Temporary Protected Status. The ex-pats absolutely send money back and are very good at raising money. The entire community had long worked together to raise money for things like prosthetic arms and physical therapy for the victims of the civil war, in which, I’m sure you know hacking off the forearms of opponents was quite the thing.</p>

<p>It’s rather strange that there have been no updates on Louise Troh & her family. I assume that means they are all healthy.</p>

<p>The feds tell people with contagious TB they can’t travel. Remember the guy who was forced into the hospital in Arizona, I believe, who had traveled when he was told not to. </p>

<p>What could this nurse have been thinking?. If she survives this, I really think she is too irresponsible to be nursing any more. </p>

<p>The CDC needs to gets it message clear. What does ‘being monitored’ mean? Did they or did they not tell these the health care workers not to travel? Are the healthcare workers in isolation or are they still doing their jobs? If you can’t get Ebola by ‘sitting next to someone on a bus’ (as someone famously said), why is the CDC contacting everyone on the Frontier plane and why did they supposedly tell the healthcare workers not to take public transportation? </p>

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<p>That Texas nurse had been in a very hot spot.</p>

<p>It’s not clear if Eric Duncan knew he’d been exposed to Ebola. There can be no question that the Texas nurse knew.</p>

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What “people?” That’s what’s confusing me.</p>

<p>Exactly. And she shouldn’t have flown.</p>

<p>It’s not really possible to know the exact second that one becomes contagious, so if exposed, it’s far better to stay away from other people.</p>