<p>She definitely would have more resources available at NIH. </p>
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<p>Interesting! If so, how’s that she is being moved AFTER she is cured?</p>
<p>Do they know about the Yale case yet?</p>
<p>A few years ago, I had accidentally left an apple from Italy in my carryon. When I arrived in the U. S., the little USDA beagle sniffed it out and it was thrown away. I’m not exactly sure why but I imagine that they were afraid of insects ruining the US crop and doing significant economic damage. Sausages are also taken away among other food products. Can’t bring potentially contaminated food into the U. S. </p>
<p>Yet, a person harboring an Ebola virus with no symptoms can fly on in. Just so long as he’s not carrying any foreign apples! </p>
<p>I think you are correct, scholarme, regarding the restroom. </p>
<p>Look, if my kid were on the plane, many rows away from Vinson, and had not used the restroom, I would on an intellectual level not be worried. But hey, my S is an only child, and it crosses my mind to worry when he drives to NYC to visit his GF for the weekend. What if there is a terrorist attack while he’s there? What if there had been one when he was in Paris or London? I made sure he has a car with front AND side airbags. I worry about all kinds of things in regard to him, because he is my life.</p>
<p>I haven’t seen anything indicating that the parents of kids on that flight are hysterical.</p>
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<p>Hey, what is your problem? We need to protect our environment, farms, and crops from foreign pathogens, which may be hiding in perfect looking, asymptomatic fruit!! </p>
<p>People? Well, not so much. :)</p>
<p>I think it’s important to lecture people on how they should feel, because lay people aren’t equipped to adequately evaluate risk, and there can be an outcry for measures that are unnecessary, costly, and restrictive to personal freedom. Indeed, those of you criticizing the head of CDC don’t think he’s done a good enough job of lecturing people on how they should feel.</p>
<p>AW, since you are so concerned for the bottom line:</p>
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Medfly infestations are not without precedent, both in California and elsewhere in North America. Between 1975 and 1993 the state of California spent more than $170 million on medfly eradication programs meant to contain 12 different infestations.[11] In 1996 the state began utilizing sterile medflies in its eradication program and between 1996 and 2007 the state experienced five infestations.[12] A major 1981 medfly infestation cost California $40 million by itself.[11] The 1981 infestation turned into a political crisis and led to the beginning of the state’s aerial spraying program in July of that year.[13][14] Medflies were found in traps as late as 2007 in Solano County, California.[12] The first medflies in Florida turned up in 1929 and they have been a constant threat to the citrus crop there ever since.[15] Medfly sightings occurred in Florida in 1997 and 2010.[15][16]
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<p>I repeat: ** THERE ARE NO U.S. AIRLINES THAT FLY TO/FROM LIBERIA, GUINEA, SIERRA LEONE**</p>
<p>Duncan flew a United Airlines flight from BRUSSELS.</p>
<p>There’s a live hearing going on in Congress. </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/watch-live-house-hearing-ebola-noon-et-n227226”>http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/watch-live-house-hearing-ebola-noon-et-n227226</a></p>
<p>Mr. Wagner said they have the ability to track where people are coming from should a travel ban be implemented. And yes, the president has the executive power to ban. </p>
<p>Apparently, Dallas morning news posted a picture of PPE recommended by Friedan. It exposes skin and makes it impossible to hose down the gear before taking it off.</p>
<p>“I repeat: THERE ARE NO U.S. AIRLINES THAT FLY TO/FROM LIBERIA, GUINEA, SIERRA LEONE”</p>
<p>I know this - that question was in response to the poster who said institutional investors are apparently going to tell the airlines they better stop flying from those countries. I don’t believe institutional investors are going to be doing that - especially given the small number of airlines which are still flying to/from those areas. </p>
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I am criticizing him because he isn’t doing a good enough job of telling people what they should do, what they shouldn’t do and what they should know. He has never been good at that. He was a hot mess here in New York, although he was very quick to quarantine while he was here, unlike now. I think he is a very smart, devoted man. Full stop. However, his current job involves the ability to communicate clearly and timely, in a manner that evokes trust and confidence. He has failed at that part of his job. Minimizing those failings as “hysteria” or as being somehow emotional is really shameful.</p>
<p>zoosermom, I hate to pick on you, but you posted this upthread:
I found this kind of offensive in terms of characterizing the views of those who disagree with you. And who do you mean by “the opposition,” anyway?</p>
<p>zm, What position did Frieden have in NYC?</p>
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<p>I’m not sure what you’re asking. Are you referring to one of the nurses? They are not "cured. " They’re at the beginning of an illness which takes a couple of weeks to run its acute course. They’re both going to get a lot worse before they get better. </p>
<p>NYMom, he was the NYC Health Commissioner under Bloomberg.</p>
<p>Moving Nurse Pham came up during the hearing. Dr Friedan said it was to relieve the load at the Texas hospital since they are also monitoring 50 other. If anyone develops Ebola, they’d be more than stretched. Nurse Pham’s virus count is down.</p>
<p>How did Yale press conference go? Do they know anything yet?</p>
<p>Here’s President Salovey’s letter to the Yale Community about this.</p>
<p>October 16, 2014</p>
<p>To the Yale Community,</p>
<p>As you may have learned from reports in the media, one of the doctoral students who returned recently from a research mission to Liberia was hospitalized in isolation on Wednesday night after developing a low-grade fever. There is no indication at this time that the student has contracted the Ebola virus (EVD). The hospitalization decision was made out of an abundance of caution, on the recommendation of the student’s doctors, local and state health officials, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The student is being monitored, and Yale-New Haven Hospital is working with the CDC and the State Department of Public Health to have the student tested for EVD, but the results will not be available immediately.</p>
<p>I understand that this situation may be worrying to some of you, to your families and friends, and to members of the Yale and New Haven communities. The health and safety of our interconnected communities is always our highest priority. The doctoral students who visited Liberia are knowledgeable about public health. They have reported that they were not in contact with Ebola patients or caregivers in Liberia, that they carefully followed recommended travel and hygiene precautions during their stay in the country and that they have continued to do so since their return. In addition, I know our colleagues at Yale-New Haven Hospital are well prepared to address this situation, however it develops, with compassion and skill.</p>
<p>I encourage you to find out all you can about Ebola, its transmission, and its treatment and cure. In-depth information is available at a special web page that has been compiled on the YaleNews site and at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s website.</p>
<p>Before closing, I feel that I should directly address the question of why our Public Health students – or why anyone affiliated with Yale – would even consider traveling to these dangerous parts of the world. As an academic institution with a research and teaching mission and a long tradition of service, it is important for our clinicians and investigators to be able to go where they can put their training and expertise to the highest, best use. Some members of our community with special expertise may be called on to engage directly in order to advance knowledge and understanding, to treat the sick, or to tend to those who are displaced or suffering. If they do, I hope we will all offer gratitude and support, just as we do now for our hospitalized student.</p>
<p>We will keep you posted as we learn more over the next few days.</p>
<p>Sincerely,
Peter Salovey
President and Chris Argyris Professor of Psychology</p>
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<p>Re post #967:</p>
<p>My point was overall the effect and costs of Ebola infections and deaths in the US could prove to be very costly in terms of people’s lives and the economy, and I believe should be given the same level of proactive importance. </p>
<p>For example, Dallas has already lost over $60M+ in business that was suppose to come there because of it. The economy of Dallas and Texas is not less important than the crop economy of California re medflys.</p>
<p>In addition, the loss of wealth alone by the drop in the airline stock is many multiples of the loses in your post. And that loss of wealth directly impacts retirees 401Ks and other investments people depend on, so people get hurt financially as well. Those people’s hard-earned wealth is no less important than the crop economy of California either and is many times larger too boot, so losses can be much higher, </p>
<p>Therefore, I believe this situation deserves a similar level of concern - actually a higher level of concern considering Ebola kills people too. </p>