Second Ebola patient

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<p>Moonchild,
Are you talking about the latest US victim, or the Spanish nurse? I read she might have touched her face with a gloved hand. </p>

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I typed in “ebola treatment protocol” in my search engine and the CDC protocol popped right up.</p>

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<p>Not exactly. Fluids from the infected person can get on the skin of an uninfected person, and from there the virus can either enter through the skin or come into contact with mucus membranes. Often, the virus gets on the hands and then the person touches their face, eyes or nose with the affected hand. It’s surprising how many times a “normal” person touches his/her face every hour. </p>

<p>Transmission is fairly easy when the patient is vomiting or bleeding. I’m sure that in his final days, Mr. Duncan was teeming with virus. Poor man. </p>

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<p>Health care workers infected with Ebola basically being called sloppy makes me slightly uncomfortable.</p>

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<p>Igloo, that would be the job of the State Health Departments because each state can have its own set of laws and rules regarding the specific actions. Do you understand how state/federal stuff works?</p>

<p>Here is the page explaining the role and the mission of CDC:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/whatcdcisdoing.htm”>http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/whatcdcisdoing.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>The removal of these gowns is not easy and probably the riskiest part of the patient care. I wonder if workers can be decontaminated by spraying the gowns with a disinfectant or irradiating with strong UV light. The margin of error is too slim.</p>

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<p>Great. My state is in the bottom five for funding for public health services. There’s a complete list in this document.</p>

<p><a href=“Healthy Americans”>http://healthyamericans.org/assets/files/TFAH2013InvstgAmrcsHlth05%20FINAL.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Oh, Bay- I’m talking about the Spanish nurse. I don’t think they have said anything that specific about the latest one.
Sorry for the confusion.</p>

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<p>I lost the link, but I thought the CDC guy at the press con today implied that dialysis might have been an unnecessary infection risk?</p>

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<p>This is me just wondering-I have no clue-if they have nurses now refusing to staff the ER. I follow and post on a nursing forum where MANY have stated they would flat out refuse to care for an ebola patient and would quit their job rather than come in.</p>

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<p>I was ready to just move on from the drama of Duncan’s extended family but in light of this development I think this would be a good time for the nephew to stop with this “nobody did anything to help him” talk. It’s disrespectful of those who put their lives on the line to care for him.</p>

<p>On another note I would like to challenge the guys in suits to put on some PPE and go change the diaper of an ebola patient. Some of their talk reminds me of a Rumsfeld presser. They could use some time in the hot zone.</p>

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<p>I insinuated no such thing. I asked what was different. Okay, a reasonable answer: those hospitals have specialized isolation units.</p>

<p>What is different about those units that help prevent the infection of people working INSIDE them, not the outside world? That is probably where they need to be looking to figure out how to improve the situation at regular hospitals, where perhaps it is more difficult to follow the CDC protocols. For example, I read that they thought that the airlock in the isolation unit of the Spanish hospital is too small to accommodate a person removing full protective gear, which resulted in accidental contact between contaminated surfaces and the victim.</p>

<p>This is a matter of simple logic. Nothing else.</p>

<p>I think the idea of having regional centers for treating such cases is an excellent one. Also, along the lines of frugaldoctor’s suggestion, I have read in numerous places of protocols that involve hosing down the person with disinfectant while wearing the protective gear, before they take anything off at all. I can see how it would be very difficult to set this up in a regular hospital; for one thing, the run off liquid becomes hazardous waste. That may be how Nancy Writebol was infected.</p>

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<p>^^Teams at those units are trained to handle infectious diseases?</p>

<p>Another possible Ebola case on a plane</p>

<p><a href=“Passenger With Flu-Like Symptoms Causes Ebola Scare At LAX - CBS Los Angeles”>http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/10/12/lax-possible-ebola-patient-on-united-flight-from-jfk/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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My friend worked in a weight loss clinic and was required to wear scrubs to work. Ditto for another friend who worked in a dentists office. The latter might makes sense for wearing scrubs. The former seemed like they were trying to make it seem more “medical”.</p>

<p>And most of the hospital staff wear either clogs or those blue disposable bootie things over their shoes. I am referring to general hospital situations, not the ebola high level exposure situation.</p>

<p>I thank frugaldoctor for his commitment to DWB and to providing level-headed and informative responses to the comments here. Education is key to avoiding hysteria.</p>

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<p>“I thank frugaldoctor for his commitment to DWB and to providing level-headed and informative responses to the comments here. Education is key to avoiding hysteria.”</p>

<p>I add my thanks as well. </p>

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<p><a href=“Majority of Americans Want Flights Banned From Ebola Countries: Survey”>http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/majority-americans-want-flights-banned-ebola-countries-survey-n221751&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Majority want a travel ban from the hot zone. A majority also oppose sending American troops there.</p>

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<p>Interestingly, the majority also has trust in their health dept/NIH/CDC etc. ability to deal with Ebola:</p>

<p><a href=“http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/NBCNewsOnlinePanelSurvey2.pdf”>http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/NBCNewsOnlinePanelSurvey2.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Dated on the 7th</p>

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<p>Where do you think you would go? To an ER. I’d probably go to the ER in what I consider to be the best hospital in my city, but depending on your health insurance… But NOBODY on this forum is likely to be exposed or get Ebola.</p>

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<p>Reading the twitter feed of a passenger on that LAX plane starting from about an hour ago:

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