Second Ebola patient

<p>Good news on both nurses! </p>

<p>And in travel ban news: All travelers from the hot zone must enter US at one of five airports:JFK, Newark, Dulles, Atlanta & O’hare. </p>

<p>Plus this: </p>

<p>“Rwanda’s health minister said Tuesday that travelers who have been in the United States or Spain — the two countries outside of West Africa that have seen transmission during the Ebola outbreak — will be checked upon arrival and must report on their health during their stay.”</p>

<p><a href=“http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20141021/b48bc140-bdac-4c11-bcba-a829495e5ad3”>http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20141021/b48bc140-bdac-4c11-bcba-a829495e5ad3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Wow, it is interesting to have deal with people who clearly go not even listen to the person they are talking about. </p>

<p>Not currently occurring is NOT the same, as being a CURRENT issue to be concerned about. Also, not currently occurring is also NOT the same, as putting your head in the sand and not doing anything about a possibility. Additionally, not currently occurring does not mean not understanding the potential and spending money to develop a plan to immediately implement in case airborne transmission does occur. </p>

<p>This is about forward thinking, not sitting around waiting for something to happen without being ready, and then being in pure reactive mode.</p>

<p>Many posters are clearly people who have an act after it happens mindset; Dr. Osterholm is just the opposite, as I am as well.</p>

<p>Better yet though, everyone is free to listen to Dr. Osterholm in his own words and to what he says.</p>

<p>The airborne transmission part of his talk runs from 17:55 - 21:55.</p>

<p>Everyone is free to make his own conclusions, as to whether after those 3 minutes Osterholm has said airborne-assisted transmission is NOT something to be concerned about, something NOT to seriously study, and NOT something money and effort should be put into developing a concrete plan for its potential eventuality.</p>

<p><a href=“http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UkMKUa0sxBQ&feature=player_embedded”>http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UkMKUa0sxBQ&feature=player_embedded&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Not what I said and not what he said. Try rereading my previous post. To repeat. In. simple words. Some. research. in. animals.has.suggested.that.a different. strain.might.possibly have.potential. to have. airborne.component, and.has pulmonary effects. There is no indication that the current virus is transmitted airborne.has an airborne transmission. Now what is your background in the healthcare field?</p>

<p>Oh, and I don’t think I or anyone at bridge caught ebola from the CDC attorney. She didnt vomit or spit on anyone.</p>

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<p>I am just a random CC poster like anyone else.</p>

<p>My posts are not cryptic, and I do not hide any science I am discussing. There must be doctors, infectious disease researchers and molecular geneticists on this thread, and they are free to engage, as they wish, in similar detail, as to the science in my posts. We can take it to whatever level they like. </p>

<p>And, as you wish, you can happily ignore me at my pleasure. However, I will not ignore you because I studiously read people who I disagree with and who present ideas contrary to my own. We are clearly different people in that regard. Cool. We both should do what works for us. </p>

<p>Hopefully that means you will respond to the several posters who have also questioned or challenged your posts instead of ignoring them and posting more stuff that whether you agree nor not, has a strong lecturing/dictatorial tone. So what’s your background in healthcare?</p>

<p>The freelance photographer - Ashoka Mukpo - has also been declared Ebola-free. Huh. Looks like a lot of people (especially previously-healthy Americans who were treated in this country) have survived Ebola. I guess this implies that the current strain of Ebola has mutated to something that is less virulent. :)>- </p>

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<p>So what do you propose we do then, to plan for this “potential eventuality”? I’m curious.</p>

<p>How is it that the NBC photographer recovered so quickly?</p>

<p>^^^^He arrived in Nebraska October 6. That is a relatively quick recovery. </p>

<p>And he had been in Liberia for quite a while. He was a freelancer and had only been hired by NBC the day before he became ill.</p>

<p>Could be he was young and healthy at the time he was stricken with ebola? Health at the time of onset of disease is an important factor, I believe. Am glad he’s ebola-free and that so many have survived their ebola infections while treated in the US.</p>

<p>^^^Also, he received Dr. Brantly’s plasma, rich in antibodies. We have no “proof” there is any benefit to receiving plasma from a survivor, but it certainly is encouraging. Mr. Mukpo would potentially be another source of therapeutic plasma, which certainly wouldn’t be considered a bad thing.</p>

<p>Has Amber Vinson received any plasma? She is the only person that I havent heard that she has received a donation. Maybe some of the medical experts can chime in? Supposedly Duncan wasnt a match, so will Amber have the same issues? Does race play into this? And no I dont mean racism, I mean will it be a problem because all of the survivors have been White, and Amber is Black? Do we have a predominately different blood type than Whites that would make donation difficult?</p>

<p>Nina is not white but was still able to receive Brantly’s plasma because they were same blood type. There are only so many blood types. The larger the pool of folks who recover from ebola, the more they should be able to learn from their and have a larger potential pool of plasma for research and treatment.</p>

<p>Well I hope Amber is able to receive a plasma donation. I still think it was foolish for her to travel, but after hearing how cautious she was, and she contacted the CDC, makes me have sympathy for her. She appears to be very young. I wish her a speedy recovery. It was quite brave of her to take care of Duncan.</p>

<p>I thought that she had received plasma but could be mistaken</p>

<p>Hopefully, one of the survivors in the US or elsewhere will be a match for Amber and she can get a plasma donation (if she hasn’t already). She has requested privacy, which seems like a good idea to me, so she can focus on recovery. Too much stress to have to recovery under the public’s eye, especially when she was publicly blamed by CDC, when it seems like it was THEIR mess up that lead to her travel by plane.</p>

<p>I had speculated earlier on one of these threads that Duncan might have been type B blood based on geographic blood type maps. It appears that was indeed the case and Brantly is A+. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.guavaya.com/why-us-ebola-survivor-dr-kent-brantly-couldnt-donate-blood-to-thomas-eric-duncan/”>http://www.guavaya.com/why-us-ebola-survivor-dr-kent-brantly-couldnt-donate-blood-to-thomas-eric-duncan/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The other doctor, Richard Sacra, who was treated for Ebola in MA and has recovered, was a missionary physician in Liberia, but was not treating Ebola patients. He said he thinks he may have gotten it from performing a Caesarian section. </p>

<p>“I had speculated earlier on one of these threads that Duncan might have been type B blood based on geographic blood type maps. It appears that was indeed the case and Brantly is A+.”</p>

<p>No, say it isn’t so. It was racism, I tell you, racism! :D</p>

<p>I have been wondering why the Africans who have been treated seem to have a far lower survival rate. Is it the better care in the US, or is there a racial (no, not racist) component to it? Nina is from the Philippines? Or Asian? And she seems to be doing better than anyone who has been treated here. Makes me wonder if ethnicity has anything to do with survival rate. There are diseases that seem to differentiate, for whatever reason, on their victims.</p>