Sedition? Okay, this IS scary

<p>The OP’s paste doesn’t accurately state what was actually written by the VA nurse. That excerpt was edited and is more benign than what was actually written - </p>

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<p>I’m guessing it’s the “act forcefully to remove a government administration…” that caught someone’s eye.</p>

<p>I would read “act forcefully” as a call to impeachment.</p>

<p>As opposed to meekly going along with the Bushtatorship’s program.</p>

<p>I find it all really crazy. It scares me. When I enter my country I get put in a glass box and shot with air to check if I have bomb residue on my person and all I can think is this happens because I am an American citizen but resident in a foreign country close to the Middle East. I am 60, female, a librarian, I help out at the American embassy, and all I want to do is come home to see my son and the rest of my remaining family. Does this happen to me when I travel in Europe? No. It is very bad for me. I just put up with it because I have nothing to hide and I feel sorry for the TSA workers. But something is wrong. So when I read something like this I know it can happen to anyone. Don’t think you, any of you are immune. My father a very conservative gentleman is rolling over in his grave.</p>

<p>CGM: Thanks for posting this but I notice this is from 2006. I wonder if there is more follow-up on this now.</p>

<p>overseas:</p>

<p>The use of the term ‘forcefully…remove’ by this person wasn’t a bright choice of words given the state of terrorism and the acts commited by crazies these days. Maybe there was an over-reaction and maybe not. As ‘vicariousparent’ pointed out this seems to have been a lone incident a couple of years ago. I also wonder what the outcome was.</p>

<p>What’s ‘wrong’ isn’t that TSA workers are being dutifully cautious. What’s wrong is the extent these terrorist organizations will go to commit their attacks. Don’t forget about the terrorists using women and even the mentally disabled to be human bomb carriers for them. There are also some people who are citizens of the USA, Britain, etc. who are working for the terrorist organizations. </p>

<p>btw - I’ve been through the ‘puff’ enclosures as well and I’m a US citizen who lives in California. I didn’t think it was a big deal and was glad extra caution was being taken. I’ve also had my carryon laptop checked by a special ‘puff’ device looking for residue. I found it interesting.</p>

<p>“…TSA workers are being dutifully cautious…”</p>

<p>…in their performance of security theater…</p>

<p>U<em>U</em>dad is lucky to be a robust traveler. Not all of us are so fortunate. My family had to go through one of those puff machines at a big airport for a domestic flight when we were frazzled by lack of sleep and travel mishaps. I went through first and found the experience disturbing, like the glaucoma puff machines that I also hate. I turned to warn my daughter, but it was too late. She was in tears. I suppose we could get used to it with enough practice.</p>

<p>Why has this two-year-old thread been dredged out of the primordial ooze? Anything new going on?</p>

<p>The whole thing was dropped by the VA and the FBI about a month after this thread was launched: [Treason</a> of the clerk: accused of sedition, a V.A. nurse beats the rap | Reason | Find Articles at BNET.com](<a href=“http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1568/is_3_38/ai_n16701776]Treason”>http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1568/is_3_38/ai_n16701776). From the linked article, it looks like her boss was angry that she was biting the hand that feeds her and used the “sedition” charge to demonstrate his feelings. The FBI in fact seized her work computer, investigating her boss’ charge that she was illegally using federal computers for personal use. A month later the head of the VA apologized and all charges were dropped. Not exactly a Bush administration witch hunt, as it turned out. It did display certain forumites’ research skills in all their eye-popping, vein-bulging, spittle-flying grandeur.</p>

<p>stop arguing. this is scary. evil is taking over</p>

<p>Primordial ooze? LOL!! I wonder…</p>

<p>Obviously letters of criticism directed to the President don’t raise an eyebrow. Otherwise, I’d be fighting off the authorities as they dragged my computer (and possibly me) out to the waiting secret service vehicle. I’ve sent dozens over Bush’s administration to him, Karl Rove, Cheney, and other officials. Not one was complimentary – who takes the time to write those? What I DIDN’T do was use language that could be construed as threatening in any way. Only a real dope would do that. Sorry.</p>

<p>Good catch, WashDad.</p>

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The puff machine was nothing compared to interrogations I had to go through entering Canada, Israel, and some other countries.</p>

<p>I read this thread just to see who would argue this was reasonable behavior and the kinds of justifications they’d come up with. </p>

<p>Some people will defend almost any action by their govt if they voted them in. One wonders what it would take for them not to (how bad would it have to get?).</p>