Where do you 100% want to be ?
Assuming you can afford it, that’s where you apply.
Otherwise you apply EA where available abd RD elsewhere.
You will be somewhere four years, day after day.
If you don’t have one that stands out to you as - this is absolutely the one - you don’t apply ED.
Now you introduce four more schools.
These are different in weather, environment, size and more.
I don’t think you should ED anywhere. ED is not a game but you are making it so.
Good luck.
I suggest applying ED only if:
I would not be concerned about not getting into McIntire after freshman year because 1. It’s not that hard and 2. UVA is one of the few State schools with little to no business/non-business school stratification come recruiting. They have alum all up and down the Street and place extremely well into IB/PE, at least on par with Dyson. Recruiting is primarily run through selective investment clubs and frats (AIF, MII, Akpsi, VVF etc.), so if you are moderately competent and put in the effort you will get a good job regardless of your major. If you’re a Virginia resident I think it’s a solid deal. Wallstreetoasis has a lot of useful threads on both UVA and Cornell specific to finance/consulting if that helps you make a decision.
The acceptance rate at McIntire is around 60%. That sounds pretty good odds, but it’s not a guarantee. I’d suggest NYU Stern for IB. They are a target school. Probably Emory next, then Vandy. They are semi-targets.
Maybe consider other colleges as well such as BC, BU, IU, or University of Richmond, which may be slightly easier to get into but also afford opportunities in finance.
Interesting. My youngest daughter was choosing between Cal, UVA, and UCLA, and chose Cal since she got direct admit to Haas and was pre bizecon at UCLA, and not direct admit to UVA McIntire. Cal for the price, ROI, location, and program size (only 191 freshman) with the Haas guarantee, it was ideal for my daughter.
Interesting! I was born on Ashby Avenue a million years ago. Mine was offered Regent Scholar at Cal, which meant early registration with athletes so not worried about on time graduation. Nothing at UCLA but acceptance.
But UVa offered Echols. Same early benefit and also no requirements. It turns UVa into an open curriculum. So that was the win.
Our family loves all of those schools. And I do think they attract overlap.
Just to complete the series. My S was also choosing between UVA, UCB and UCLA. Echols was very attractive but UCLA won on location and instate tuition (plus Alumni scholarship). He ended up in consulting without needing a business/finance major (he did Public Affairs).
Personally, I would choose an affordable college where you feel you will be happy and successful over the next 4 years. The overall experience at NYU compared to Vandy or UVA will be quite different. What do you want?
IB, PE, and consulting jobs are far from guaranteed regardless of the college you attend.
Don’t allow the 60% acceptance rate to convince you odds are good for acceptance. There is an element of self selection that weeds out a large percentage coupled with an element of unpredictability due to no specific criteria for acceptance.
There are lots stories of students with 4.0 GPAs who weren’t admitted so assume nothing. As a parent who had a child not accepted 3 years ago with a 3.7+ I can attest to this.
I can also say she was an Econ major who minored in McIntire and landed a 6 figure job upon graduating.
Exactly…thanks for sharing your experience. I stated above that McIntyre admissions is holistic….the school has to balance gender, majors, race, SES, etc. and it helps to hear about students with high grades who didn’t get accepted. But things can still work out too.
That is absolutely not true. Hotel is one of the most common schools for IB/consulting prospects. You can break into IB from any major at Cornell.
Of the students tracked in Hotel and/or Hotel restaurant in 2022/23, 28 show IB and 19 PE.
168 show hotel and restaurant admin - whatever that may be.
Clearly one can get to an IB role from the major. How many want that I don’t know - given the major is assume most don’t.
Either way a lot of hospitality deal making is related it IB /PE.
The OP already already decided against applying to the hotel school at Cornell.
I just used LinkedIn (finally an appropriate use) to figure out the backgrounds of Cornell undergraduate Alum that work at my IB. There are currently a total of 9.
7 Dyson grads (this is where we actively recruit). 1 industrial and labor relations grad who is in our HR department as a compensation expert. 1 Hotel business management grad who is in our commercial real estate group but got an MBA in finance from a top 5 B school.
Small sample but consistent with what I have seen over the years. Best path from Cornell to IB is certainly Dyson but other paths can be forged with a strong narrative, leveraging the schools reputation and a little luck. The advice however remains if you want IB from Cornell shoot for Dyson.
You can think whatever you want but you don’t go to cornell. It’s self selective and the Hotel school is split between real estate finance (not typically IB) and the food industry. Have several friends (Hotel, ILR, Dyson) going into BB this summer…
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Going to add onto this but you all clearly have your minds set on something that you haven’t even personally experienced!
IB has nothing to do with major at Cornell. It’s what pre-prof org you join, that ends up giving you the proper guidance and network to succeed.
You are correct I don’t go to Cornell, but I do run a large investment bank. I am however fully aware of where and how we have recruited from Cornell over my 30+ years in IB.
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